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  1. On 6/11/2020 at 4:27 PM, wxray1 said:

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    I'm still not sure how this is going to work out.  MLB is trying hard to crater their season...

    MLB is crazy, they must still think it’s the 1950s and they’re the King of Sports and fans will always be there.  The fans haven’t been there for over 20 years.  Of the major team sports, baseball has the least physical contact and had the easiest path to get back to playing games safely.  This was their big opportunity!  Baseball was played through the Spanish Flu!  Even Babe Ruth catching the Spanish Flu in spring training that year couldn’t stop baseball back then, but now, these owners and players look like they are going to squander their opportunity to take center stage in the sports world, at least for a fleeting moment until the NBA and NHL figure out their restart timing.


  2. Houston is a more attractive market than Raleigh.  Of course, Houston is more attractive than a lot of current NHL cities.  What keeps Dundon put?  One thing in the short run was the Raleigh market proved that put a decent product on the ice and the fans would return. Attendance this year was way up from last season which was up solidly from the year before.  Had the fans not returned in numbers and passion, that could’ve been a green light to bolt, but realizing there was a latent fan base here eager to return buys some time for now.  The investment and infrastructure in having a top line practice facility will help anchor the team here, but the arena is an issue that needs addressing. 


  3. 15 hours ago, legend-1 said:

     Interesting, though if he's recovered it seems like a non-issue

     
     

     

    Well, the Penguins have dealt with a virus rampaging through their team before in the fairly recent past.  Arguably the league‘s best player at the time, Sydney Crosby, even came down with the virus.  This was a highly infectious virus but it had a very effective vaccine and Crosby had been vaccinated, but still got the virus anyway.  Will the initial COVID-19 vaccine be anywhere near as effective as the mumps vaccine?  Unlikely, so even when there is a vaccine, figuring out the risk levels and those ‘what if’ contingency plans when someone gets sick will be on-going by the league planners perhaps for years...


  4. 8 minutes ago, wxray1 said:

    One final thing about this.  We obviously all see the risk differently...

     

    And that view of risk changes over time in response to real or imagined changes in the threat.  After 9/11 some in the media and many people said there would never be mass gatherings again, no Super Bowl could ever be held, people wouldn’t fly, people would not want to go in tall buildings.  Years later, looking at air traffic numbers and mass gathering gate receipts, etc., it was like 9/11 never happened!  What changed?  A lot had to do with the perception that the risk was less or the realization that the risk of any one mass gathering being attacked and result in death or injury was always small.  Also changed was there was at least the appearance of safety, TSA seizing your bottle of water or shaving gel, of course, makes nothing safer, but adds to an illusion of safety, that the risk is less.  The same with metal detectors and screenings at PNC Arena.  If someone intended to do premeditated harm to PNC Arena attendees, would those security measures prevent it?  Doubtful, but the appearance of those checkpoints gives an illusion of reducing risk and making folks feel comfortable, normal.

     

    Likewise we’ll see mask wearing by service providers and encouragement for others to wear them, temperature checkpoints at entrances to businesses and workplaces, random testing, sanitizers everywhere, where to stand markings on the floor, etc.  Some of these measures will be of dubious ability to actually prevent someone from getting the virus, anymore than taking your shaving cream will prevent the airplane from being blown up, but it will make many folks feel safer, reducing their perception of risk.


  5. 6 hours ago, Canesfanforever said:

     

     

    He took 16+ minutes to cover something he could’ve done effectively in 5 or less, but some interesting nuggets in there.  One is the reminder of what a ridiculously sweetheart TV deal the NBA has.  With the pandemic shutdown, NHL is in pickle with both the CBA and TV contract expiring the same year—doesn’t seem like good life cycle timing there Mr. Bettman.


  6. 8 hours ago, magpiemaniac said:

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    Will the NHL be next?

     

    Minor leagues, in all sports, have different operating revenue sources than their major league counter-parts.  The minor leagues depend significantly on gate receipts, so operating without fans is really a non-starter.  The NFL, with its huge TV revenue stream, likely could operate for a long time with no or limited fans.  The NHL, not as much.  Those planning and scenario analysis meetings at league headquarters must be something...


  7. 22 hours ago, wxray1 said:

    ...UFC, NASCAR and Pro Golf are very different.  Isolation is possible to various degrees.  With team sports it is not.  A virus racing through a team could take it out of competition for weeks...

     

    This makes me think Fencing is the perfect COVID-19 sport—

    You’re required to wear gloves.

    You’re required to wear a mask.

    And if someone gets within six feet of you, you stab them!!! 😜

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  8. 2 hours ago, wxray1 said:

    BTW, you all know there is a BEER SALE today, right?   Socially distanced, do not need to get out of the car, no change given, etc.  I just came back, and sales were brisk.  Not sure how long it will last.  Stormy and Don Waddell were saying "hi" to everyone in line.  I figure this is a covid-19 inpact [sic] since they couldn't sell it in the area.

     

    I was there too, sales were brisk and Waddell even loaded one of the cases in my vehicle.  I wasn’t sure if I was supposed to tip him... 🤔😂


  9. 4 hours ago, hag65 said:

    This 24 team playoff will probably never happen, for all the reasons already talked about (read as many pages back as you wish).

     

    However, just for the sake of the discussion (more fun to talk about than the rest of this), take the premise that it does happen...

     

    Young teams would have a definite advantage over old teams, this layoff would not be easy for the older players to recover from.  I would like the Canes chances in a tournament like this.

     

    I agree, young teams will have an advantage.  I also think the teams that play in the play-in series will have an advantage over those with the bye.

     

    Will it happen?  We’ll see.  UFC has matches this weekend, NASCAR races the following week, Indy Car and the PGA in June, MLB and NBA are both looking at July.  If the NHL is shooting for an August Stanley Cup tournament, they’ll have some time to take notes on what works or doesn’t in these other sports.


  10. 3 hours ago, top-shelf-1 said:

    Got a link?

     

    2 hours ago, gocanes0506 said:

    NBC

     

    I read—well, ok, skimmed—about six or so articles yesterday that said pretty much the same thing.  Here’s one from the NY Post for example: https://nypost.com/2020/05/07/nhl-restart-would-go-directly-into-24-team-stanley-cup-tournament/.  I don’t recall if any of them really directly cited the source of their info but it may have been from players and what they’re hearing from the League,  The Minneapolis StarTribune had this good update from Dubnyk, the Wild’s union rep https://www.startribune.com/wild-s-dubnyk-on-nhl-restart-i-m-not-interested-in-packing-up-and-going-away/570287352/ on what he’s hearing and general outlook.

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  11. On 4/30/2020 at 10:47 AM, LakeLivin said:

    I've got to believe it will also suck for the AHLers who end up going back and forth between the two teams.  Must be a lot more convenient to hop in the car for a 2.5 hour drive than have to fly.  I wonder if any Checkers used the train? Might take a little longer, but they could just study game tape (or play fortnite) the whole time.

     

    Me and Mrs. Storm have taken the train to Charlotte a couple times over the years for Checkers games and to do other city stuff while there, pretty convenient way to get there for those in Raleigh that haven’t done it.  A break in the Canes affiliation is unfortunate.  I guess, from the reports, Chicago was a better financial deal and perhaps the Chex played a game of chicken that the ‘One Carolina’ marketing would win out.  Still it is too bad, I liked having the in state affiliate, but can’t blame the Canes for going with a better deal.


  12. 6 hours ago, LakeLivin said:

    ... I guess the obvious answer is that the emergency powers extend as long as the emergency exists, but that leads to another philosophical question: what defines an emergency?

     

    Hopefully future tyrants have not learned a lesson at how easily the populace gave up their most cherished freedoms, either completely or in a limited way, with this so-called “invisible enemy”, the right to assemble, the right to free speech, the right to vote, the right to bear arms, the right to practice religion, the right to hockey... After this, it is not difficult to imagine—is it?—a future ‘public health’ or similar crisis, real or created, leading to totalitarianism here or in other western democracies.  Patriots beware!


  13. 1 hour ago, cc said:

    I have no clue as the mutation factor cannot be assessed or cumulative immunity. Way too early to tell. That’s exactly my point.  

    Indeed...the Spanish Flu basically disappeared very shortly after peak deaths in its second wave In many areas.  Mystery still surrounds this disappearance, but rapid mutation is a common theory.  

     

    Even though it mostly disappeared, the Spanish Flu did linger beyond 1918, even into March and April 1919 when it killed “Bad Joe” Hall, defenseman for the Canadiens, and hospitalized most of the team and some of the Seattle Metropolitans were sickened too.  The Stanley Cup finals were cancelled mid-series and no Cup awarded.  Actually in a great show of sportsmanship, the Canadians manager said he was forfeiting the Cup to Seattle, but the Seattle manager said he could not accept the Cup under such circumstances and the series was cancelled instead.


  14. 2 hours ago, CanesFan2003 said:

    Watched the replay of Games 1 and 2 of the 2006 Finals.

     

    What really stood out to me, was how Fast that team was! And they had some Thump!

     

    I had forgotten how fun that team was to watch, I think that team was faster than what we have today.

     

    And certainly a lot heavier and more physicality and hitting.  Sure do miss Ward, Walin, Commodore, Wesley, and Heidcan.

     

    And the Power Play was lights out good!

     

    And did I mention how Fast rhey were?

     

    Thought for the most part this year's team and last year's were pretty darn good and fast. But they look like an AHL team compared to the 2006 team.

     

    The 2006 Canes would sweep the 2019-2020 Cane's team in a playoff Final.

     

     

    That same team, though, in Game 6 got whipped 4 to nothing and it could have easily been 7-0 or worse.  They were an embarrassment and wouldn’t have beaten the 2019-2020 Canes or anyone else in the league that night.  Hockey is such a funny, fickle game!  (At least we don’t have to actually watch that Game 6 again!)


  15. 22 hours ago, Red_Storm said:

    That game will air tomorrow, Monday April 20, followed by Game 2 on Tuesday, Game 4 on Wednesday and that great Game 7 on Thursday.

     

    Strange it is the CBC rebroadcast of the game and not OLN/NBC’s.  Such a huge difference in watching hockey in SD vs. HD, my poor eyes...!


  16. 1 hour ago, KJUNKANE said:

    Just getting back to you, as spent the day with law enforcement recovering a body ironically (can read about in news). At any rate, yes my favorite show for years. Have the entire series on video someone gifted me.

    Checked the news, yes, you’ve been busy...

    I recall the show fondly but it’s probably been twenty years since I’ve seen an episode when it was in syndication.


  17. 15 minutes ago, remkin said:

    It's a fair point, but until there's a vaccine there will be some risk, and possibly even after that (depending on effectiveness and safety of the vaccine). These guys are are in their 20's and 30's and very healthy. They probably feel the risk a bit less in that sense too. To wit: so far in the US there have been 126 deaths in the 15-34 age group from Covid. In that same age group the number of deaths from flu in one year: 154. 

     

    Both numbers are highly slanted to young people with serious underlying medical issues. 

     

    If you're in that age group this is pretty close to the flu. 

     

    But I guess time will tell what they do. 

    Interesting remkin, I had just seen that same CDC data on flu vs COVID-19 deaths by age range. 

     

    The other thing that makes playing hockey hard to imagine is temporal, we are living in today.   But think back just two months ago, would we ever imagine we'd now be in a near nation-wide lockdown for over a month?  Likewise, we can't really imagine what it will be like in 2-3 months from now that the NHL is looking at because our frame of reference is dominated by today.  But in 2-3 months things could change dramatically:  real time testing may be commonplace, effective therapeutics perhaps even some for prophylactic use could be available, herd immunity, seasonal variability of the virus, etc.  Planning doesn't necessarily mean doing, but planning is good--it sure beats hunkering!

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  18. Interesting stuff, KJUNKANE.  Were you a fan of Quincy, M.E. back in the day? 📺🤔 I was always amused by the opening credits of that show when Quincy pulled the sheet off the corpse and began the autopsy in front of a row of rookie cops and all the cops pass out one by one!

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