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  1. I believe that JJ would have signed with Carolina this week if he was still property of the Canes.

    The Canes didn't want to wait for him, but I think he would have left college no matter what team he was on. It was something he wanted to do. He never stated he was going to stay 4 years in college.

    I still think the Canes should have remained patient and he would have been here by the end of the season. For some reason, JR got pissed at the kid.

    I personally think the Canes made a rather large mistake trading him.


  2. Unless the Canes start winning, all this analysis doesn't matter. They need to WIN somehow, someway. Bottom line.

    The Pittsburgh game was the first game where they seemed to realize the hole they are in and they fought as hard as they could. From all reports, they played hard in Atlanta, but couldn't pull out the win. As Forslund said in his blog, it is the at time of year when a good effort with no W to show for it, is just a wasted effort.

    The Canes are going to need to go 11-3 to get in the playoffs. It is going to be a race to the end. One more 1-3 week like last week and the team is is done. They need some bodies back by the weekend as well.

    Right now, I believe the games in hand for the teams around us is what concerns me. I actaully look at the standings an place the Canes around 10th right now.

    It is scary how thin a line the Canes are walking right now.


  3. I too am a longtime Whaler/Cane fan. I actually remember the day I woke up go to school and a friend calling me at like 6:30AM that Francis had been traded. That trade was basically the end of the Whalers.

    So I have seen my fair share of horrible trades. Ray Ferraro for Doug Crossman comes to mind as one of the worst.

    The Cup championship will keep me happy for a few seasons. However, it is ok to question a GM's moves. It is what sports fans are supposed to do. It doesn't mean you are giving up on the team or that you are a bandwagon fan.

    JR has made some questionable moves this year. No doubt about it. The one that will haunt him for a while is the J Johson trade. If you gave him some truth syrum (sp?) I am sure he would admit this as well. They should have got more for him.

    The second biggest mistake was not picking up Recchi's opition. Basically they signed Letwoski to fill his role for 1 million less than Recchi and it hasn't worked out at all.

    I loved the K Adams trade. I think Seidenberg has lots of upside.

    The team needs a legit #1 defenseman to quarterback the powerplay and make some nice outlet passes. This is where the main problem is this year. The D-men haven't contributed anything at all to the offense this year. I think there are a lot of defensemen out there who have outscored the entire Canes defense by themselves.


  4. Not picking up the 2 million option on Recchi was a mistake. He wanted to stay and would have been well worth the money.

    Next to trading JJ, this was the second dumbest move the Canes made during the offseason. They signed Lewtowski instead for a million dollars cheaper. Not a good trade off


  5. I am sure that if JR really wanted to get Gleason, he could have got him for less. They didn't have to trade one of the top three defensive prospects in the world to get him. If Tkachuk could get you a first, second, and third round draft pick and he is 35, you have to believe that the Canes could have done much better for Johnson.

    I understand that he didn't want to play for the Canes. However, JR grew impatient and pulled the trigger too early. Should have waited it out.


  6. Who cares if Johnson didn't want to play for the Canes. I firmly believe that they could have gotten so much more for him. JR made a big big mistake to lose patience and get rid of him so quick. They should have held on to him and waited until they got enough in return for him. He was one of the only bargaining chips they had.

    For the price that some of the rental players were fetching, JR could have unloaded Johnson for some younger players and draft picks that could have really helped this team this year and in the future. And I don't give a crap that they were able to throw in Tverdovsky because they could have threw him into any J Johnson they made.

    JR made a costly mistake. That is the bottom line.


  7. As far as trading goes. Besides the two goalie prospects, do they have any other talent in the minors that are anywhere near being ready to contribute? I haven't heard of one player mentioned that can help out the Canes in the future? I mean, you look at teams like Nashville and even the Flyers. They have all sorts of prospects that can step in and contribute. If not, they are assets that can be traded.

    I am not trying to be sarcastic or anything. I want the team to be good every year. In order to do that a frachise needs a constant stream of draft picks to plug into the system. I think all of the Canes top guys are already with the team without much in the pipeline.

    I am just wondering if the Canes have anyone on the horizon. At least one player possibly?


  8. I know they needed help at the beginning of the season. I strongly feel that there were still UFA that they could have signed that could have provided the same kind of impact that Gleason and Belanger contributed this year. I like Gleason and think he is solid, but you should get more than that when you trade away one of the top three defensive prospects in the world right now.


  9. This trade really doesn't bother me. I think Belanger is the better skater with good speed. Joe probably has the better upside and offensive potential.

    What bothers me is the JJ trade. It bothered me when they made the deal and it bothers me know. Even if the Canes knew he wouldn't play in Carolina, they should have had the patience to wait until the trade deadline approached. If they still had his rights, I am sure they would be able to get much more right now than they got from LA. And I don't want to hear about Tverdovsky's contract. The Canes are not up against the cap and still would have had room with him on the books. They could have added him to any JJ trade at anytime. After JJ's performance at the world juniors, his stock would have been higher than ever.


  10. In response to the poster who thinks re-acquiring Joe was the dumbest move that JR ever made.

    No where near it. That honor would have to go to trading J Johson. He was a franchise defenseman. They could have gotten so much more in return if they held onto him until the now.

    Don't let the spin the team put out after the trade fool you. They should have been patient and waiting for the right trade to come along. Instead they panicked and pulled the trigger 5 months too early. Johnson was the biggest trade chip the Canes had. They rushed the trade...


  11. It was tripping. I don't think the refs can be blamed for last nights game at all. I mean, it seemed the Canes were on the Power Play for half the game. The Canes PP cost them the game last night. They look lost right now. How can you go 1-14 or whatever it was including the amount of 5 on 3 they had. They need to change something on the PP because it just isn't working anymore.


  12. I don't understand how anyone can knock the trade for Seidenberg. He has averaged over 22 minutes a game since he arrived. K Adams did not do anything for the team this year. Yes, he played hard when he was on the ice, but as far as I'm concerned, JR made a steal with that deal.

    I agree with one of the prevous posts. The frustrating thing is that teams appears to lacks toughness and grit this year. Toronto pushed the Canes around the entire game and no one on the Canes even tried to play physical. Tanabe was the only player on the team who even got upset with the knee to knee hit on Brindy. Every player on the ice should have jumped it to fight. Half the teams looks disinterested of late.

    As for another post stating that the Canes offense only lost Matt Cullen during the offseason...what about Recchi and Weight? Last years team was loaded. In hindsight, think the Canes should have picked up Recchi's option. He wanted to stay he would have produced. He plays with an edge that the team is missing this year.


  13. Forget Tverdovsky. It would have actually been better if they kept him around this year with all the injuries they had on defense.

    I totally disagreed with the trade at the time and the more I think about it now, the more pissed I get. You don't trade a blue chip prospect, one for the top 3 defensive prospects in the world away. You keep them and build your team around them. Besides, if you do trade one away, you get a superstar in return. Not two players who can easily be replaced through free agency.

    For instance with JR traded Pronger away, he got Brendan Shannahan who was in his prime and scored 45 goals the year they got him.


  14. This team has to do something. I understand that one player will not be enough to change the teams fortunes, but I think a trade would change the chemistry and send a message.

    The only untradeables as far as I am concerned is Staal, Williams, Cole, Brindy, Ladd, and Gleason (considering who they gave up for him).

    Although I like Walker and Whitney, they will be UFA this offseason, so they may not stay anyways.

    On defense, they need to get younger. I would keep Seidenberg (a steal for K Adams), Babchuk, Gleason, Commodore, Hedican, and Wallin. The rest are expendable.

    John Gramhe can be traded as well.

    I beleive Rutherford made a mistake and traded J Johnson away too early. That was the Canes biggest bargaining ship. If they were going to trade him, use him at the deadline and he could have gotten much more in return.


  15. I think it may be time for a trade. The team just looks lethargic. They just can't find the consistency this year. They are getting outworked and losing all of the one on one battles along the boards. This never happened last year.

    What move can they make? I have no clue. They already traded the one huge commodity they had in Jack Johnson. (And yes, they should have got more in return). They really don't have any other tradeable prospects due to many poor drafts over the years. They have Staal, Ladd, and Ward. That is all they really have to show the recent drafts. I am seriously scared that they may trade Ladd, as he is the one young player I think they would consider moving. It would be a mistake.

    The problem is that the Canes have no scoring depth. If the top two lines do not score, they lose. The fourth line does not help out at all and the third line needs to start carrying their weight. Rutherford made some a nice move picking up Walker. But the rest of his offseason moves have backfired. Walker is the only player who has contributed anything.

    The real problem is the defense. They do not have anyone who can make the nice outlet passes to the forwards in stride. They need some help on the blue line.

    I don't know. The injuries have definitely hurt. There may just be too many holes to fill right now and the Canes may have to just suck it up and try to stay in the playoff race. Once healthy, this team is dangerous. It just seems that everytime they get a player back, someone else gets hurt.

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