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  1. 29 minutes ago, gocanes0506 said:

    I feel all those plans are fairly dumb.  As expected, the greed that comes with being the only thing on and having an exponentially larger audience will eventually win over logic. 

    im not a NBA fan but I read a bunch about the MLB plan.  Mountain time games on the east coast?  There goes 2/3 of your big markets. Then sitting 6 feet away from other players in the stands? Locking them down in Phoenix? Possibly playing 7 inning double headers just to get to 162?  Regular testing and a positive test doesn’t shut it down?


    the logic is gone in all of that.

    And we can assume no stealing bases, otherwise the runner and first baseman will be less than six feet apart, and stealing home will become the easiest play in baseball.

  2. Meanwhile, back on topic, there's this from The New Yorker. Here's the last 'graph:


    Many major sports are exploring different scenarios for coming back as soon as possible. There have been reports that Major League Baseball is looking into moving all teams to Arizona; the N.B.A. is considering Las Vegas. All the plans require readily available rapid-response testing, something that does not currently exist, and so all the proposals have a quality of fantasy. And all of them involve risk. Leagues and events may say that health and safety come first, but, until there is a vaccine, and until most people are vaccinated, the virus will spread. Sports have always involved tricky negotiations between business and the public good. That has never been more clear, and the stakes have rarely been this high.



  3. 2 hours ago, beboplar said:

    These were always night classes, and well before the age of cellular phones.  I am most proud of the fact that none of the students got injured over the course of those 3 years.

    Exactly. I enjoyed the same good fortune in the same era, but the school eventually abandoned the class when its insurer raised their rates so high that the course fee would have been ridiculous.


    I love the camera! Very cool. 


    Here's my latest. Cherry and maple. The ends of the legs are exposed within the top, and the shelf lifts out for easy vacuuming. It's based on an oak dining table I made over thirty years ago, for a guy who (little did I know) would later become my cardiologist. (It was a minor heart attack, but I became symptomatic [how's this for bringing the conversation full circle?] on my way to play floor hockey!)


  4. 9 hours ago, LakeLivin said:

    As long as we're displaying our woodworking skills I figured I'd jump in.  I needed something to prop up an uneven planter box hanging on my rail.  I made this using a circular saw.  Yellow pine was my wood of choice.  




    While understandably proud of my own work, If I'm being completely honest I'm just a tad jealous of some of the items you guys have made.    

    Gorgeous! (I refer to the railing in the background :) ). 


    One of the first columns I ever read by Dave Barry seems appropriate here.

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  5. 22 hours ago, snuffy72 said:

    Must make a comment here on beboplar and top-shelf-1.   You guys are very talented woodworkers.   Very nice.   And while I am at it....top-shelf-1 ...... do you live in Big Sur?  The reason I ask is I was stationed in the military in Monterey and used to go camping near Big Sur.  

    Thanks snuffy!


    Mrs. Shelf and I have vacationed in Big Sur a couple of times and tied the knot there, but bepolar is the one in Cali, not me. 

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  6. 15 hours ago, beboplar said:

    Well, seeing that there's no hockey to talk about (well I have been looking at mock drafts....), here is another offering on the woodworking side of our site.  This table is made from Wenge, Bubinga, and Sapele Pommele. 


    Nice! I got to work with bubinga a lot as a young man, when I prototyped a new line that featured it for a small limited-run manufacturer.


    Years after starting my own shop, I "taught" (<= quotes explained momentarily) a woodworking class at an adult evening school for a few semesters. The day of the first class, I'm in my shop and it dawns on me: "What if somebody wants me to demonstrate... oh, I don't know, hand-cut dovetails?? Yipes!" There'd been zero call for them in my work (mostly commercial and institutional cabinetry), but in what I thought would be an instructional setting, who knew? So to be sure I remembered how to do them, I made what eventually became the mahogany apron of the table below (top and legs are maple).


    Of course, nobody asked. The "class" was guys who'd been coming for years, each with a new project every semester, and painstakingly detailed progress notes, so they'd be sure to get the time they needed on given pieces of equipment in given weeks, to keep their projects on schedule (Christmas gifts each fall, graduation gifts each spring). Great group of people, and I wasn't totally useless, probably saving them a finger or two by virtue of timely interventions: "Whoa, there... let's think about a safer way to do this..."

  7. 17 hours ago, beboplar said:

    I've never posted pics here, so I am not sure if this will work.  This pic is 1 of the 23 TV trays I am making in the garage during this respite.  There are 3 others like this one, but the other 19 are different.  


    Ah, the Sapele. Very nice. 


    Do you remember years ago a story in Fine Woodworking about a huge tree that had been felled in Belize like 50 years earlier but rolled into a ravine? When the technology was finally in place to retrieve it, it yielded something like 20,000 bd ft of some of the most highly figured mahogany anyone had ever seen, some 15 percent of which (if memory serves, and don't bet the ranch on it) was what's called "quilted," with square patterns so perfect it looks like a quilt. The sapele reminded me of it. 


    Here's a chair I did for a neighbor. It's a reproduction of the original Frank Lloyd Wright "barrel chair" from 1904, which I did entirely from pictures.



    The originals are in a house he built in Buffalo, and I got to see them in person a couple of summers back, after building this. The production version of the chair is for dining (more upright) but originally they were living room chairs.... that scooped back is super comfortable. I took some liberties with the joints where the front legs meet the hand rests. FLW's version did not have exposed joints there, but I thought the finger joints kinda mimicked the verticals of the back nicely.1167292175_barreldetail.thumb.jpg.52b5c594e9d921b9fe7beebffbf2392f.jpg


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  8. 1 hour ago, remkin said:

    There is a difference between playing in empty buildings and letting 15K fans in. And letting people attend mass events is going to be just about the last thing people are allowed to do. It might be worth all of the hoops to get keep some people watching hockey. 

    I'm not saying it might not happen. I'm just saying that based on what we know now, I think it would be a mistake at best, and catastrophic at worst. If I were a player I'd feel like a lab rat, and if my union told me to sign a waiver I'd tell them to go ffffffff...ind themselves a hobby. It's not like any of these guys need the money.


    Let's say a vaccine is 12 months off. The safest play--and quite possibly the most lucrative, compared to pay-per-view of games played to empty stands--would be to wait for the vaccine, and come back with playoffs for the 2020-'21 Cup based on the standings at the time this season was suspended. With all that's on the agenda in the 2021 offseason--not least the expansion draft for Seattle, where the virus first hit these shores--and of course the entry draft (and why not a summer ASG?)--the NHL could market its return like nobody's business, and hockey-starved fans would buy season tix for the first full season in two years like crazy. 


  9. 10 hours ago, bluedevilcane said:

    And I’m puzzled why you think if measures like shutting down the economy

    The simple fact that you call it "shutting down the economy" instead of "protecting American lives" speaks volumes.


    You can't enjoy the fruits of a strong economy if you're dead. This administration's foot-dragging and downplaying of this threat has cost 20,000 American lives, and counting. 

  10. 9 hours ago, bluedevilcane said:

    The first paragraph above is certainly a fact and not your political opinion. Dr. Fauci stated publicly on January 31st that he did not expect the Coronavirus to be a major problem in the US. 

    And he has since admitted he was wrong. When was the last time our president did that? Oh, right: never.


    Further, Fauci based that statement on the entirely reasonable belief that this administration would respond to an existential threat to this country like every administration that preceded it: by leveraging all the tools at its disposal to keep us safe. And it did not.


    By the way, I wasn't referring to any of those news orgs you cherry-picked. Go read the Associated Press. Or are you among those who think it, one of the most trusted, oldest news gathering and reporting organizations on the planet, is "slightly biased" too?


  11. 5 hours ago, bluedevilcane said:

    Can we keep political opinions and finger-pointing out of these boards?

    I think we have. We are discussing facts, not political opinions. 


    Fact: Health experts all over the world knew about Coronavirus and the threat it presented.


    Fact: Countries that took the threat seriously and enacted appropriate public safety measures immediately are faring far, far better than those that took a laissez-faire approach.


    Fact: This country was among the latter, and largely because of that, our favorite sport is now suspended indefinitely.


    Fact: This country took that approach because its president thought he knew more than the experts. Had he deferred to their expertise many weeks sooner, widespread transmission of the virus might have been avoided... and we might still be playing hockey.


    Pointing out a failure of leadership that has been fully documented by any number of independent news organizations is not a "political" statement or an opinion. This thread is about COVID-19 and its impacts on hockey, and if we can't talk about what went wrong and why because doing so is (errantly) deemed "political," it is a sad day indeed.


  12. 11 hours ago, cc said:

    Nope. There is a different social convention there.  (Compared to other places.)  Social not political.  That is unless the word "radical" belongs to a political ideology.   I think not.   Radical Right, Radical Left, Radical Middle, all the same.  

    If you really believe that, how can you simultaneously complain that a discussion of one of the most basic tenets of purchasing--specifically, that bigger institutions (i.e., the Federal government) can buy more, faster, and for less money than smaller ones (i.e., individual states)--is "political"? You can't have it both ways, cc.


    We are in a once-in-a-lifetime situation and the preponderance of evidence is showing that the Federal government blew this one but good. The politics don't matter. Donkey or elephant, ignorance on a scale like this must be called out--because if it is permitted to be spun into something other than ignorance, we seriously reduce our chances of responding next time with the urgency, seriousness, and resolve that a global pandemic demands.


  13. 14 hours ago, wxray1 said:

    That's a given for the regular season.  You think playoffs too?  I think they are gone.  Said so a while ago.  But I'm willing to be surprised.  

    I agree. The nation's leading epidemiologist (Fauci) has said it is unlikely things can return to normal before an effective vaccine is in place. Any institution--for-profit, non-profit, whatever--that goes back to business as usual with a statement like that in the public record is begging for a lawsuit the minute any of its employees or customers contracts and/or (heaven forbid) dies from COVID-19.

  14. On 4/9/2020 at 6:17 PM, winger52 said:

    Too many State governments looking for federal disaster relief,

    Yeah... because individual state governments have SO MUCH MORE BUYING POWER than the Feds, who aimlessly spend trillions on "defense" (maintaining bases in far-flung countries), hundreds on hammers and toilet seats, but hoard the national stockpile of PPE, and lay the blame at the feet of the states. While not on defending our nation against an actual, lethal threat that has landed on our shores and is killing thousands daily. Okay. 


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  15. 13 hours ago, winger52 said:

    Well I know of two who were full time employees who had been with the Canes for many years. Here's your prorated vacation pay, and here's the door. I guess you just can't pass up a crisis 

    I get the righteous upset, I really do. But it's misdirected. This is not "a" crisis. This is a global crisis the likes of which have not been seen anywhere in the world for over a century.


    The simple fact of the matter is that our nation's leading health experts knew the threat COVID-19 represented, but their warnings were ignored in favor of magical thinking: “It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.” That was said on February 28, when it wasn't yet too late to act. (We all know the source.)


    Blaming business owners for not spending one dime more than is absolutely necessary when they have no idea whatever where their next dollar will come from, let alone when--really? Every event at PNC for the foreseeable future has been canceled. There are no guarantees that hockey will be back even next fall. If you were Tom Dundon, knowing all this, and knowing that legislators from both sides of the aisle are on the record, very pointedly saying they will spend whatever they must to make people whole and restart the economy, and knowing that continuing to have people come to work--when they are doing nothing that is even tangentially "essential" under public health guidelines--is grounds for legal action for corporate negligence if/when one of them dies from the virus, what would you do differently?  

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