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  1. [quote name='caniac-97 wrote: TheBigKahuna']The Canes organization is loaded to the gills with offensive minded defensemen....throughout the system. Practically every single d-man they have signed is cut from that pattern. It's kind of silly, and ridiculous. If any of those kids looks decent, JR has to think about moving a few of them for some solid defenders. Pits and Ruutu will be trade deadline bait if the team is struggling. But those two will probably have to play an instrumental role for this team to be in the post-season hunt. The teams ranking will play THE role in who is moved at the deadline. Right now, the Canes are loaded with prospects though, especially centers and defensemen. If Rutherford was looking to simply rid himself of Samsonov, they most likely would have bought him out. I think Sergei stays. And Cole is part of the "family", he's not going to be traded again. I can't see it happening....and who'd want him? He's done absolutely nothing to warrant more than a league minimum salary in 3 years. a buyout doesn't negate spending real money and right now it appears they don't want to spend real money. we are at the bottom of the cap so that isn't an issue but paying Sammy a few mil NOT to play for us is still a hit in the wallet. Exactly, we would still have to pay 2/3 of his salary and have him on the books for an additional year. A Samsonov buyout would not have helped us.
  2. Yeah, that's probably what JR has been working on this past month. It might take a deal like that, but JR won't give up any of our prospects just to rid us of Samsonov's salary. I'm hoping for something like Samsonov and a low pick for a low pick, and we get our pick back if he hits a certain number of points or goals. low risk for a team if money isn't an issue for them, or if they need to take on more salary. Anything at this point to get Samsonov's salary off the books is fine, especially since it allows room for another prospect.
  3. [quote name='coastal_caniac wrote: Sutter16 wrote: coastal_caniac']Feel free to share your knowledge with the rest of us by giving us your rankings. Based on your comments, I'd like to see just where you have the top-10. I find it interesting you don't believe Nash was signed to compete for the third-line center position. I'll admit I haven't watched him play in college, but everything I have read suggests he is likely ready to play some amount of time with the big club, if not make the team out of camp. Also, I did see him in person at the prospects camp and it was apparent to me in the first few drills he was heads above everyone with the exception of Skinner. That certainly played into my rankings. Also, I find it intersting that no one but myself had Justin Peters ranked in our top-10 prospects. I didn't say he wouldn't compete for 3rd line center, obviously he will and he's the front runner right now, but it would better serve him to start in the AHL, similar to how McBain was handled last year. Not many players can step right from juniors/college into the NHL. He'll compete primarily with Dalpe, but I guess the organization would rather rush him than Dalpe, which I would agree with. I don't think Skinner will really compete for 3rd line center duty, he's a winger in the NHL and there's no use starting him at center. We'll most likely have some winger injured and Skinner will start the year with the Canes on the 9 or 10 game period where the first year of ELC won't kick in, and be sent back down to juniors. Honestly, I really don't want him playing anymore than that this year, we have too many forwards and Skinner has a chance to build on his crazy goal total in juniors this year and once we can dump Cole and Sammy we'll have more forward openings for Skinner next year. 11-12 will be a great year, if we play it right we'll have no bad contracts and be even younger than this year. As for my list of prospects, I would go something like this: 1a. McBain 1b. Skinner For various reasons, overall skill, their ceiling, and what McBain has showed in the NHL to this point. No doubt they're our top two, but I can't really put one in front of the other at this point, McBain has 4 years on Skinner so they're at different points in their development. 3. Dalpe 4. Boychuk 5a. Faulk 5b. Doumilin 7a. Bowman 7b. Nash 9. Sanguinetti 10. Osala There are a couple groups of players that are on the same level/I can't put one in front of the other, so my top 10 is basically this group. Okay, seems like a well-thought out top-10. Interesting you have Faulk and Duomolin placed ahead of Peters and Bowman though, but its your list. Tlusty is getting no love from anyone either. I do agree outside the top-2 its up for grabs. Also, everyone can't stay in Charlotte unless we sign more forwards, so some of this group will have to play with the big club. It could be a revolving door between Charlotte and Raleigh. As far as Skinner I agree, logic would dictate he plays the 9 games in Raleigh and heads back to Kitchener. That will be interesting to see play out. Didn't add Tlusty because I don't feel he's a prospect anymore, especially since he's on a 1-way deal now.
  4. [quote name='coastal_caniac wrote: Sutter16']Everyone here is overrating Nash. Yes he's a good prospect, but not as good as McBain, Skinner, Boychuk, Dalpe(who seems to be vastly underrated here), or even Doumilin. I think a general lack of knowledge of all our prospects is fueling this, as well as "Ronnie likes the guy, he must be amazing" comments. Just because Francis likes him, doesn't mean he's going to seamlessly step into the NHL as our 3rd line center, Dalpe has more experience than he does. And the Carson, Borer, Rodney types are not prospects anymore. Feel free to share your knowledge with the rest of us by giving us your rankings. Based on your comments, I'd like to see just where you have the top-10. I find it interesting you don't believe Nash was signed to compete for the third-line center position. I'll admit I haven't watched him play in college, but everything I have read suggests he is likely ready to play some amount of time with the big club, if not make the team out of camp. Also, I did see him in person at the prospects camp and it was apparent to me in the first few drills he was heads above everyone with the exception of Skinner. That certainly played into my rankings. Also, I find it intersting that no one but myself had Justin Peters ranked in our top-10 prospects. I didn't say he wouldn't compete for 3rd line center, obviously he will and he's the front runner right now, but it would better serve him to start in the AHL, similar to how McBain was handled last year. Not many players can step right from juniors/college into the NHL. He'll compete primarily with Dalpe, but I guess the organization would rather rush him than Dalpe, which I would agree with. I don't think Skinner will really compete for 3rd line center duty, he's a winger in the NHL and there's no use starting him at center. We'll most likely have some winger injured and Skinner will start the year with the Canes on the 9 or 10 game period where the first year of ELC won't kick in, and be sent back down to juniors. Honestly, I really don't want him playing anymore than that this year, we have too many forwards and Skinner has a chance to build on his crazy goal total in juniors this year and once we can dump Cole and Sammy we'll have more forward openings for Skinner next year. 11-12 will be a great year, if we play it right we'll have no bad contracts and be even younger than this year. As for my list of prospects, I would go something like this: 1a. McBain 1b. Skinner For various reasons, overall skill, their ceiling, and what McBain has showed in the NHL to this point. No doubt they're our top two, but I can't really put one in front of the other at this point, McBain has 4 years on Skinner so they're at different points in their development. 3. Dalpe 4. Boychuk 5a. Faulk 5b. Doumilin 7a. Bowman 7b. Nash 9. Sanguinetti 10. Osala There are a couple groups of players that are on the same level/I can't put one in front of the other, so my top 10 is basically this group.
  5. [quote name='10DollarTH wrote: Sutter16']Everyone here is overrating Nash. Yes he's a good prospect, but not as good as McBain, Skinner, Boychuk, Dalpe(who seems to be vastly underrated here), or even Doumilin. I think a general lack of knowledge of all our prospects is fueling this, as well as "Ronnie likes the guy, he must be amazing" comments. Just because Francis likes him, doesn't mean he's going to seamlessly step into the NHL as our 3rd line center, Dalpe has more experience than he does. And the Carson, Borer, Rodney types are not prospects anymore. I agree that Dalpe is underrated, but I think that is because of a lack of knowledge of him, Alot of people haven't seen him play either in person or on tv. With Nash he is probably a little overrated but I think alot of that has to do with what I and probably others saw at the prospects conditioning camp. He was the only one other than Skinner who didn't look like he was a kid just entering his professional career, and I know he was playing against other prospects but he definitely looked like he was in a different class. I noticed him out of everyone without knowing any of their numbers almost instantly, like literally within 2 or 3 drills, so I think that is why he may be a little bit overhyped as opposed to Dalpe, hopefully he's the real deal and we can trade that enormous salary thats sitting on the first line in a year or two(yes that is a joke, although some probably agree with that statement) That's because he isn't a kid just getting drafted, he has 3 years on most players there. 21 year olds should look better than the 18 year olds. However, people should not expect that to translate into instant NHL success. He has no professional experience whatsoever, and just like everyone else it'll take him time to adjust. It would be best for his development to start in Charlotte.
  6. Everyone here is overrating Nash. Yes he's a good prospect, but not as good as McBain, Skinner, Boychuk, Dalpe(who seems to be vastly underrated here), or even Doumilin. I think a general lack of knowledge of all our prospects is fueling this, as well as "Ronnie likes the guy, he must be amazing" comments. Just because Francis likes him, doesn't mean he's going to seamlessly step into the NHL as our 3rd line center, Dalpe has more experience than he does. And the Carson, Borer, Rodney types are not prospects anymore.
  7. Yup, we have enough 2nd/3rd line tweeners as it is. If we're spending money on a winger, or assets in the form of a trade, it better be for a 1st liner. And don't get your hopes up for the D, my guess is that we'll see Brett Carson sign for about 600k and then our D will be set.
  8. JR said size doesn't matter with our pick, and also said that there are 2 guys we want, and he's confident we'll get one of them. Granlund or Burmistrov.
  9. I still don't buy into management going for Johansen. I'm sure he is a great prospect and will be a good player, but I just have a feeling that we will not take him if he's there at 7. Also JR has been saying that our pick will most likely play here next year, and Johansen is still a year out at best from professional hockey.
  10. [quote name='rocheccw wrote: Sutter16']There are over 5 picks we could make a 7 that would not be a mistake, there is so much uncertainty on where everyone sits in the rankings after hall and seguin, so there's no guarantee that he will be available if we trade down. Also I highly doubt that either team gives up two firsts only to move up 5 or 6 spots. He's the top rated European skater, and has been all year. What makes him more of a mid-first guy? His size isn't an issue, in his draft profile they raved all about him and how he played in a Mens league as an 17 year old and scored at a ppg pace. The profile also made a point of saying that the Finnish league was the one that most likened the NHL style of play, meaning it is a great gauge of his future success in the NHL. He's not like Burmistrov, he's a solid 180 and still could get bigger. What makes you think that Granlund doesn't have that upside? From what I see everyone thinks he has the potential to excel greatly in this league, and to start playing next year. JR also said that he hopes our pick will play here next season, Johansen has no hope of playing in the NHL next year. Both players have great upside, but for now I have to think that Granlund is who we'll take. Also having 3 finns on the team already helps. Of course if any of the big 3 fall to us, we will take them. I really hope Gormley does. If he doesn't, we'll go Granlund, Burmistrov or Johansen. Again, I'm not saying that he doesn't have upside. I would hope anyone picked at 7 has plenty of upside. Yes, he is #1 ES, but ISS has him #15, TSN #13, and Hockey News at #10. I think he would be a great pick between 10-15, and a steal after that. I would just rather have Nino at #7. Yes, in TFEL he had almost a PPG pace, but only 13 goals in 43 games. Yes, I realize it was against older players. I still would try to trade down, and pick him at 12 or 13. Maybe the Canes would have to throw in a 2nd to make the trade work, but I believe either Granlund, Burmistrov, Skinner, or one of the next level of D would be available at 12 or 13. It could all change depending on the situation when we're up tomorrow night, but I doubt we'll move down. Say we don't take Granlund at 7 (maybe Gormley falls to us) I would be willing to bet he's scooped up by Minnesota at 9. From 3-15 there's no real set order because they are all good prospects, so I agree we'll still get a good player if we traded down to 12 or 13. But I get the feeling that management is dead set on Granlund at this point and will not risk trading down if he's there at 7. For all we know, Nino could be gone before we pick at 7, and maybe JR knows that so isn't even bothering to talk about him. That would bode well for our chances at Gormley. And the reason he only scored 13 goals (still very good, over 20 goal pace for full 82 NHL schedule) is because he is a big time playmaker, his game is to set his teammates up and make whoever is playing with him better.
  11. We didn't even interview Connolly, so I would say we have no interest in him and his injuries.
  12. I want Tinordi. Just the type of defenseman we need.
  13. [quote name='rocheccw wrote: witchking-ch1 wrote: Sounds like El Nino isn't our top pick. Which bums me out. Bums me out too, but maybe it is just smoke screening. I got depressed at the end when he posted his list & Nino was the last name on it. I now believe that Johansen will be the pick if he is still there. He was third on Paul's list even ahead of Gormley. I still think Johansen benefited from playing with Nino, but it looks like the Canes see it the other way around. If we pick Granlund at #7 I think I will lose my dinner. If this is the guy then trade down with either ANA(12 & 29) or PHX(13 & 22), and pick up another 1st rounder. Then take the best D available with that 2nd first round pick. Then keep all 3 picks in the 2nd round. That would be 5 picks in the top 60. Connolly injury history scares me. Skinner is a natural goal score, but needs to work on his skating & D. Burmistrov( I just can't see JR taking a Russian at # 7)Not sure why you don't like Granlund, the only knock people have are his size, which obviously wasn't an issue in the Finnish Elite League last year and, as management has said, won't be an issue in the NHL...He will be an amazing player wherever he goes. Your two trades are completely unrealistic, neither team would give up a late 1st round only to move up 5 spots. JR has also made it clear that we are staying at 7. We actually heard it from JR first
  14. This isn't what he said. He said we would be competitive now.
  15. We're not drafting Nino or Johansen, and he is in no way our highest rated forward. I don't buy all this interest in Johansen one bit. It's more likely that we want teams to think we're interested so they think that the higher talent (Grandlund/Burmistrov) will fall to them. This prevents teams in the 8-12 range leapfrogging us and taking the player we really want, Granlund. This is what I think our list looks like: 1. Top 3 if they fall 2. Granlund 3. Burmistrov 4. Johansen 5. Skinner I don't buy this Campbell talk either. Their have been reports that he could surprise with how high he goes, so by dropping that we are interested we might make other teams who really want him uneasy. This could cause them to trade up in front of us and let the players we really want fall down to us. I'll say Gormley if he's there, if not we go Granlund. Also I will throw out I think we'll give up two of our 2nds for a player or to get back into the 1st. If we get Gormley, then I predict that we'll trade two 2nds, or maybe even a prospect and a 2nd, for Versteeg. If we draft Granlund, we'll package two 2nds to get back into the 1st and draft Tinordi.
  16. [quote name='rocheccw wrote: Sutter16 wrote: gocanes0506']I know they still have the 8th pick but reasons why they dont make the trade now 1. They wouldnt have a 1st round pick 2. They just picked up a good veteran forward that is better than cole, sammi, or larose 3. They are close to their budget and wont be able to add much more salary I am still counting on a forward (sammi/cole/larose) plus a 2nd rounder this year, and something else (spec or 2011 pick) for a falling star that we are high on in the 1st round. I gotcha. Yeah, and I would love to trade back into the late 1st to grab Tinordi if we go forward at 7. My gut says we'll go Granlund and keep all of our picks. Picking Granlund at #7 would be a mistake IMO. He is more of a mid first round player. I would only pick him if we trade down & pick up another pick. I wouldn't pick him because he is too small. But if the Canes really want him then they should trade down with Ducks. #7 for #12 & #29. Or trade with PHX #7 for #13 & #22. With everything I'm reading it looks like the Canes will take the player with the most upside & that would be Ryan Johansen. I still want them to draft Nino or one of the top 3 D. There are over 5 picks we could make a 7 that would not be a mistake, there is so much uncertainty on where everyone sits in the rankings after hall and seguin, so there's no guarantee that he will be available if we trade down. Also I highly doubt that either team gives up two firsts only to move up 5 or 6 spots. He's the top rated European skater, and has been all year. What makes him more of a mid-first guy? His size isn't an issue, in his draft profile they raved all about him and how he played in a Mens league as an 17 year old and scored at a ppg pace. The profile also made a point of saying that the Finnish league was the one that most likened the NHL style of play, meaning it is a great gauge of his future success in the NHL. He's not like Burmistrov, he's a solid 180 and still could get bigger. What makes you think that Granlund doesn't have that upside? From what I see everyone thinks he has the potential to excel greatly in this league, and to start playing next year. JR also said that he hopes our pick will play here next season, Johansen has no hope of playing in the NHL next year. Both players have great upside, but for now I have to think that Granlund is who we'll take. Also having 3 finns on the team already helps. Of course if any of the big 3 fall to us, we will take them. I really hope Gormley does. If he doesn't, we'll go Granlund, Burmistrov or Johansen.
  17. No problem, I enjoy discussing things like this, definitely helps pass the time in the offseason. It's always hard to understand management's thinking, but we have to trust that (for the most part) they know what they're doing. On the surface this looks like management being cheap, but when you really look at the situation were in and the moves we're making, you can see that we are setting ourselves up to be a team that will be highly competitive year in and year out. We haven't seen the last of the Cup in Raleigh, I'm confident that we'll win it again soon enough. But for now we have to bear through a year of transition, and that can definitely be tough to swallow. We'll soon be reaping the rewards of this approach. In just 2 more days we'll finally know who we get at 7, the draft can't come soon enough!
  18. Absolutely. The supertight budget is not to blame here, unfortunately JR's big flaw is his contracts. JR is a genius in some aspects of his job, but some of his worst decisions are what's killing us right now, the contracts to Brindy, Cole, Samsonov, and to some extent LaRose. This is the patchwork I refer to and what we need to avoid, and thankfully are moving away from. JR overpaid in dollars and years in an attempt to keep the Cup core together, and that has crashed and burned in our face, and it's unfortunate that it took a miserable year last year for management to realize this. This is why we won't sign any big free agents, or rather overpaying for them. While free agency is great, we will never be heavily involved in the big names as every contract signed on July 1st is terrible overpayment. JR has realized this finally and you can see this with the way he is handling the Whitney situation, this is all we can afford to offer and we would love for you to stay, but we won't overpay to keep you. Last year he overpaid Cole and LaRose to stick around. Our management learned a lot form it's past mistakes and it is really showing this offseason. So yes I agree keeping Whitney, at a decent price, would be ideal and help with the veteran leadership, but our bad contracts have handicapped us to the point where keeping Whitney is counterproductive. The good news is, after next year we won't have any bad contracts (part of the reason why I don't want any buyouts this year, swallow as much as possible this year to start as clean as we can in 11/12), and our prospects will have a great year of experience under their belt allowing for a very affordable, young, competitive and profitable roster in 11/12. If we can keep our recent drafting successes up, and Rutherford put us in a great position for this with 11 picks, then we can really look forward to many great years of our new team. I don't put too much stock into that as Hershey is the very best in the AHL and has some veterans, like Aucoin, who are great AHL players. I put more stock into what we saw this year at the NHL level post-trade deadline. That was the best record in the league with our rookies occupying many roster spots. I'm very encouraged by that. Our new core-veterans are on the young side, but many of them have at least 5 years in the league and people like Cole and Kostopolous have many more. I'm leaning towards not getting rid of Cole, I think his veteran leadership will help, I know Boychuk has mentioned Cole specifically before. It also helps that our young core, Staal, Ward, Gleason, Pitkanen, Ruutu, Jokinen, have also been through deep playoff runs during their 5 or so seasons. I think they are very apt to lead this year and for many years to come, as they will be adjusting and learning in their new role. On Maurice, I don't want to start another coaching debate, but the only reason I think he is still here is because of his contract. This goes back to our current financial standings, paying two coaches would be a bad idea. Unfortunately they aren't like players, once you sign them to that contract you are stuck, you must pay. His contract is another causality of the patchwork of keeping the vets together. We'll eat up the rest of his deal and most likely promote from within once it's over. Agreed, but well-placed also means you don't have a ton of them eating up money and roster spots. A select few who know what they're doing can make a big difference like you said. I have faith in our current "vets" (the 25-27 year olds) along with players like Cole and K-Stop who can show the kids how to be a professional. Again JR's bad deals somewhat handicap us in this area.
  19. I gotcha. Yeah, and I would love to trade back into the late 1st to grab Tinordi if we go forward at 7. My gut says we'll go Granlund and keep all of our picks.
  20. You also can't sell a business to an investor that loses money every year. We've only made a profit for 2 years in our history. Basically we need to make the playoffs in order to turn a profit, so a new business model is needed. We can increase are income or decrease our expenses. To increase our income we have to build a competitive team that can contend year in and year out, we are taking the steps right now to build towards that business model by rebuilding our team the correct way. This takes time, so for now we must decrease our expenses to turn a profit. This will show investors that we can make a profit even if we don't make the playoffs while we take the necessary steps to build towards a profitable team that is competitive every year. This takes the risk out for investors and makes them more likely to buy into the franchise. Luckily with our prospects transitioning into the NHL our expenses will naturally be lower and allow us to be to turn a profit while taking the necessarily steps towards our long term plan of building a competitive team that will increase our yearly income for the long run. The average fan doesn't look to far into this and might see this as the team copping out and being cheap, so the All-Star game is a huge win for us as that will cushion some of the backlash from what the public views as cheap management. This is why signing veteran free agents and handicapping ourselves with more bad contracts, as all July free agent contacts are, is a terrible idea! I read on here before from one poster who thought we are wasting away the prime years of Staal and Ward. That's what keeping up with our patchwork was doing and would continue to do if we don't go through a rebuild to put ourselves on the right course. You can only fix something so many times before it breaks, and that's what happened last year. It is absolutely essential for our franchise to do everything we are doing. Everyone should be happy with what is going on, management is finally giving up on our patchwork that failed so miserably since our Cup, and taking the necessary steps to create a team that will be competitive, profitable, and successful for many years to come.
  21. Who said we were tanking?? No one ever said that, JR never said that. He said we would be competitive....Like I said in my previous post, you never know what to expect when you have a large number of rookies making the jump to the NHL, so there's no way that he can say we'll be a playoff team, so he said we'll be competitive. Why is everyone freaking out about it? I agree with Legend here. JR has finally realized that filling in spots with veterans and trying to keep the stanley cup winning core together is like putting a bandaid on a broken leg. Everyone should be happy that JR has finally realized that and is rebuilding our team! Teams naturally go through these phases where the old veteran core moves on and younger kids come up to fill in the spots. Most fans here have never been through this before so it's new and uncomfortable to everyone. The way to rebuild a team is not through free agent signings and "bringing back cullen", it's through restocking your prospect pool by having a good string of strong drafts and building your team from within. That's why you always here GM's say that the goal is to have a team that is entirely made up of your own draft picks. Going through a rebuild you have to go through a low point where you won't be as successful, but that is a small price to pay to build a team from the ground up to set your team up for long term success and competitiveness. Everyone needs to be patient and realize what is going on. JR is doing a great job right now, he got 4 picks in the first 2 rounds and now has 11 picks, more than any other team. Everyone should be very happy with what is going on and how Rutherford is rebuilding our team. This draft is so big for our future. I wish people would realize this and stop bashing JR: there is a reason he is the GM of an NHL team and there is a reason we are casual fans posting on a message board. He is smarter and knows so much more about the NHL and how to build a team. Think of this before you tear him apart, accuse him of "alienating the fan base", tanking a season, or purposely not trying to do his job. Wake up and realize this is how a competitive team is built! end rant...
  22. They still have their 8th, the first rounder they gave up was the one they got from New Jersey, the 24th. There's still hope
  23. Ha, I'm not going to tear you apart, I think it's a creative and interesting idea. The only thing is I have no idea what an acceptable price would be for Atlanta s pick. Pre lockout it took a similar deal for Vancouver to get the 3rd for Sedin, but being in the salary cap era seems to have driven the price up for top picks. So I'm not sure what it would take, but based on history, your proposed deal could work. That being said, I would absolutely love if we could get both of them, especially if the deal for the 8th overall was similar to what you posted like the 37th overall, 2011 1st rounder, and LaRose (you're right he probably has the most value of the three). Btw, I understand your concern with next years 1st, but I would think that it would have to be guaranteed for them to accept, and I would be fine with that. Losing LaRose would be tough because he's a fan favorite, but if that's what it takes to get the 8th overall, then so be it. The 37th and LaRose is a fair price to pay to take our 1st overall pick a year earlier and get Johansen's extremely high ceiling and keep his chemistry with Nino. Bottom line, if we could make a deal like the one your proposed, I would be all for it. One other concern would be that Rutherford said today he thinks we won't be moving around in the draft and keep our picks. I don't know if this only applies to 7th overall and leaves the opportunity for moving our 2nds, but the implication I got was that we'll keep all of our picks and draft as many prospects as we can to increase our chances of getting good players and restock our prospect pool as many of them move up to the NHL.
  24. What did you guys expect him to say? It's no surprise we're going cheap this year, and I don't want to bring up the reasons why, but we are. We are in a rebuild, or as JR likes to put it a "transition period", so we can't be certain what we will get with the kids, but most likely there will be growing pains. He can't come out and say we're going to be a playoff team, even the most optimistic people here still aren't too sure, because of the uncertainties with our rookies. There is always the potential that our rookies click and we do make the playoffs, hence why he says a "competitive non-playoff team," he's leaving the door open for this opportunity. And if we don't make it, not big deal, we didn't expect to in our "transitioning period."
  25. [quote name='witchking-ch1 wrote: rocheccw'] JR...This is THE guy...make it happen! Would love to see this kid on Staal or Sutter's wing in a couple of years. Absolutely. I think we're sitting great at #7. Assume that Hall/Seguin go 1-2 in some order, then you've got us grabbing one of these five: Gudbranson, Fowler, Gormley, Connolly, El Nino. Any one of those 5 *could* make the roster in the fall. Especially with the latest news that we're REALLY going cheap. There are going to be spots open for competition. And one way to get more people to come to the game is to put a young, exciting team on the ice. I think if they go with anyone else at 7 (Burmistrov, Johansen, etc) then JR should turn in his badge. Any one of those other guys is still a good prospect, but I just don't see any of them having a shot to make the roster in the fall. The 5 above have that chance. Why should we draft our player based on who could make the roster this fall? We will be drafting who we think is the best possible asset at 7, if they make the roster this fall it will be an added bonus. Our goal is to get the best possible player we can, the best prospect. If JR drafts one of Johansen or Burmistrov, why should he "turn in his badge"? I'd be ecstatic if we got Burmistrov, and Johansen is just as good of a prospect as Nino. We should stay away from Connolly, his injury issues are more concerning than any size issues that come with Burmistrov or Granlund.
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