In Season Talk 2019-20 in Hurricanes Talk Posted 2 hours ago · Report reply 38 minutes ago, raleighcaniac said: So by that explanation Anyone would be right to extrapolate that McDavids 116 points last season and +3 rating makes him lazy on D even though he played top line with Leon Draisaitl. Okay. You’re too bias on putting weight on a players value to a team via plus/minus. That isnt it at all. McDavid's have a ton of PP points. So his plus/minus is skewed. Roughly a third of his points or so are PP points so his +/- is a lot less then his contribution. Skinner had a 1/4 of his points from the PP but Skinner's points are 60 not 120. Above all of that the eye ball test of Skinner's play will tell you he isnt a 200 foot player and costs his team.