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  1. 2 hours ago, remkin said:

    Trying to move Staal is an interesting topic IMO. At least it's not talking about a virus. The NTC notwithstanding.


    There is a piece on fansided about 3 trades the Canes should make offseason.  1. Trade a goalie and go UFA offseason, preferably Lehner. Agree. 2. Trade for a middle 6 forward, JVR. Disagree. 3. Trade Staal. Hmmm. 


    There is no question that Staal seems to be a guy who maybe could use a change of scenery. OK this seems like an odd take since he's Captain. But even though the league may be a step quick for him, I've still seen flashes of beast mode from him. I no longer think he can hit his peak production, but he has to have more than this last year saw. And he is solid on D still, and brings some physical and wins faceoffs. 


    I still think he is a solid third line center for a good team, especially given his d prowess. 


    But there seems to be something about Raleigh and Staals where their production just fades out over time. Do they get too comfortable? I don't know, but something seems to happen, and Eric at least got his mojo back after leaving here. Then there's the whole effect of his captaincy, which IMO is still uncertain, but definitely not Brind'Amourian, or even Williamsonian. 


    I'd still like Staal as a non captain making tweener second/third line money, without a NTC. But that's not the situation. I like him as a third line center, but Brind'Amour and the team seem unable to just call him that, and he surely isn't being paid that way. 


    As always, it also comes down to return, and this is where the NTC often fouls things up as guys tailor where they can be traded and limit the market. 


    Anyway, I don't think Stone Hands will be putting up major numbers anymore, but I do think he can be one of the best third line centers in the game, so I'm torn. Clearly Brind'Amour thinks the world of him. It would be a bold move though.



    It's all a result of his ridiculous contract (thanks, Rutherfart).  If he's being paid $3-4M with no NTC, centering the 3rd line & PK, and skating around with an A, i think the vast majority of Canes fans are smiling and profiling to have him out there as long as he wants to stick around.  But as long as he's the highest-paid player on the ice not named Aho, is being overslotted (the only time he should ever touch ice with Svech is if there's an injury and he's filling the gap), and is the C leading his troops into battle, he's not the guy.  I still think he brings little that the now-gone much-cheaper Wallmark couldn't/didn't provide, and that cash could be quite useful somewhere else.

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  2. 5 hours ago, Canesfanforever said:

    Well  given how  fast that city is growing   and  bringing in  corporations   for more jobs    I Don't see how you can make that statement .   They  will be  getting  a MLS  team next year and on top of that  talks of   a new Football arena  are going on which will most likely  happen .    After all you  live in Charlotte  given your location on your tag .   Are you saying  there are no   Hurricanes fans  up  there ?



    Maybe in time but from what i've seen there's a larger hockey fanbase in Raleigh than in Charlotte, and the fan base that's here doesn't necessarily pull for the Canes. I didn't see too many tears amongst Chex fans when the Chicago Wolves story came out.  As far as MLS, i'll be shocked if Charlotte isn't dead last in attendance from the get-go.  If they aren't, it's because it's the shiny new object and they'll be in the attendance basement the next year.  The average Charlotte sports fan is at this moment weeping their heart out because NASCAR banned the Confederate battle flag.

  3. 1 hour ago, Canesfanforever said:

    One thing  that has been a big issue due with the canes is the lack of  corporate sponsorship that  most of the major  cities take for granted .   The blackhawks ,  rangers ,  habs ,   have  that   in number unlike the canes ,   And well that could be understood  by sheer population  alone .   Sure raleigh is  growing    but  if you were to take a look down the road of charlotte    that city  is  growing bigger   every year in numbers  that would make any resident of raleigh  jealous .  


    If there were to be a relocation of any sorts   charlotte   ( if they had a functioning  nhl sized  arena  )    would make for a strong candidate   in north carolina .     But  they dont  and so  Raleigh   seems to be the only outfitter for  an nhl team .     The next major move  in regards  to the city of raleigh is to  plan out a new arena after 6 years .    I do believe that if that does not happen  and  they decided that the pnc arena is good enough ,  it might not be  for  Tom Dundon .   Just something to think about .    



    Just one guy's opinion but if you really want the Canes to fail at the box office, put them in Charlotte.

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  4. 5 hours ago, KJUNKANE said:

    I can't make up my mind which is more depressing, the perennial discussion that hits every time there's a rocky road about RELOCATION



    Agreed.  Sadly it's the nature of the beast.  The Canes could lead the league in attendance year-in year-out and a sizeable chunk of NHL fans would still be saying NC doesn't deserve a team and the league should move them to Quebec / back to Hartford / blah blah.

  5. 9 hours ago, LakeLivin said:

    I guess one mitigating factor I'm considering is that the NHL needs to approve any move and they seem firmly committed to keeping hockey in the south.



    Agreed with this, however considering the possible relocation target is Houston, keeping hockey in the south won't make a difference one way or the other in this one.  I don't necessarily expect the team to move to Houston, but at the same time i wouldn't be surprised to see Dundon try it, nor would i be particularly surprised to see the league approve a move to a larger southern market.

  6. 16 minutes ago, wxray1 said:

    Southern feed.  Been sharing with Preds ever since the shutdown.  Also, during regular times, you'll see Preds games in replay overnight.



    I briefly wondered if Charlotte was revolting against the Canes.  Speaking of, has anyone heard any updates on the whole Hurricanes-Wolves and Checkers-Panthers thing?

  7. 6 hours ago, gocanes0506 said:

    its 24 teams for ~3 weeks for training and first round. Then its 16, then 8 after ~5 weeks. its those 8 and especially the final four teams that sacrifice the most. After 5 weeks we go from 528 players and support staff to 176 players and a third of the support staff.


    the first 5 weeks are the most probable of a positive test.  It is still a very low chance.  



    But what happens if they make it to 8 teams and suddenly a couple players from those teams start testing positive?  Stop and wait while they quarantine the entire teams for another 2 weeks?  Have the teams carry forward without the positive players?  Or if it's a wave of positives spreading through one of the neutral locations?  Boot the 8 teams in that location and let the other locations carry on?  Ouch.  Not picking at your post, gc, just thinking out loud.  There's no way to plan for every possibility, but there are so many of them.

  8. 1 hour ago, LakeLivin said:

    Let's see if we can find your cutoff.  Darts? Cornhole?  Archery?  Skeet shooting?


    I think poker is pretty clear to most everyone. I remember a while back where there was a group that tried to get chess added as an Olympic sport. Part of the argument was that at the highest levels a chess match required a certain level of endurance, lol.   



    There does have to be more criteria because otherwise you'd have to consider such 'party games' as quarters, Twister, and yes, darts and cornhole, to be sports.  I'm not sure what that other criteria is just yet.  Archery and skeet shooting, i'll say sport.  Quarters and cornhole, get back to me on those.  But there does have to at least be competition and athleticism.


    Which still makes even all of those more-acceptable for sports channels to be televising than my current 'whine of the week' i keep coming back to, poker. 😄

  9. 32 minutes ago, LakeLivin said:

    How much athleticism needed in your definition?  Any of curling, stock car racing, or sailing a sport?



    It does get a little gray.  Curling and stock car racing, yes.  By sailing do you mean something competitive like sailboat races?  If so, yes.


    Not Poker, though.  Wheel of Fortune and The Price Is Right are more sport than Poker.

  10. 26 minutes ago, raleighcaniac said:

     Not really. Wolves play in Rockford 90 miles from Chicago. Rockford is more burned out than vibrant. Given their sched they probably don’t get into the city unless coach gives them a 72. 



    The Wolves play at Allstate Arena in Rosemont, right across the Interstate from O'Hare.

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  11. 1 hour ago, bluedevilcane said:

    Just saw this thread for the first time. Too many questions to know what to think will happen. Is this season over? If it gets finished out in some fashion, I can’t see Williams coming back. But also, is it even certain games will be played next year? For those that can stomach the COVID thread, there are so many opinions about when sports can resume (not to mention will there be a “second wave”) that it’s no sure thing there will be a season next year for Williams to come back to. If so, Willy sure looked like he could play another year if he wanted to. As far as retiring #14, an argument could be made that most of his greatest accomplishments were not here. But assuming the team is inclined to retire a jersey, should it be #11? He wore that number a lot longer than 14 if I’m not mistaken. Anyway, hope he stays with the team in some capacity. A real leader and winner the likes of which we haven’t seen since the C was taken from #17.



    Can't deny at all that Williams has been important to the team, but he isn't 'retired number' important, IMO.  If you retire his number (whichever one you choose), do you retire CWard and EStaal as well?  Faulk and Cole?  Whitney and Wallin?  Damned fine hockey player no doubt, and had he spent his entire career here then perhaps, but you can't retire every number and 4 full seasons and parts of 3 more with only 2 playoff runs between them isn't enough to hang his in the rafters.  One guy's opinion, of course.

  12. I haven't been to a Hurricanes game in probably a decade but i've been making it to a handful of Chex games each year since they moved back to Bojangles. Of course i watch every Canes game on television as long as i'm home.  This won't make a huge difference to anything there - i'll still watch the Canes on FSC and will still attend a handful of Chex games no matter who their parent is.  It's definitely a strike against the whole 'Carolina's team' thing when the largest city in either Carolina is the top affiliate for someone else, but life goes on.  There is a fair-sized contingent of Chex fans who weren't fans of the Canes to start with and are already jumping up on Facebook saying they're happy with the news (and of course i've already seen a couple FB comments saying this is proof Dundon's going to move the team 'back to Hartford' [LOL] and others that he's going to move the team to Charlotte [double LOL]).  I do think both teams will lose many (but not all) of the 'traveling' fans who drive from Charlotte to Raleigh or Raleigh to Charlotte to see the other team play.  The Checkers will suffer more from this, but it is what it is.  Honestly wouldn't surprise me if Charlotte ends up back in the ECHL.  Maybe not immediately, but before the decade's through.

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