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The Kitty Kats victory had to be from the hockey gods. To have Zednick win it in OT exactly a year to date after his dreadful injury defies logic. Now, the Kitty Kats are one point up with one game in hand. Makes it essential the Canes win Thursday's game in regulation.

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yup, leafs have done that like 3 times.. sorry TSA, i not liking the leafs right now... :blink:

No need to be sorry, I was only cheering them on to help the Canes. That didnt work out too well <_<

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I would say its a big deal now that Thursdays game is a must win.. but really at this point.. every game from here on out is a must win. Thankfully TB and Atlanta are well out of it, 12 points and 16 points behind respectively. I dont know if we can beat Atlanta (we seem to struggle against them) but we are 4-0 against TB this year and play them two more times. We've got two games against Buffalo this month, plus the home game against boston. Several games this month we SHOULD win.. @NYI, home vs TB, @Ottawa @Atlanta.. all winnable games.

3 games against Washington in March, two in DC.. that will not be fun. 2 vs NJ also. But some winnable games in March also.. NYI at home, @TB, home vs Rangers (if they continue to struggle), 4 out of 5 games in april are at home, with games against Islanders and Rangers (also Pittsburgh and Buffalo)

28 games left and 59 points. If we win half the games left, thats 28 points to move to 87 points. That should get us into the playoffs if some other stars align for us. What was the estimate at the beginning of the season.. assume we need 90 points to make the playoffs? Its still possible even with a "rough" year we've had.

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87 points won't get us into the playoffs.

Last year, it was 94 points. Both years before that, 92 points. Before those years, we still had ties, so any evidence there is tainted. 90 points was an educated guess based on the previous years. In reality, 94 would be our main target, but if all the remaining teams really started to suck from this point on, 90 would get us in.

59 points, 28 games remaining. We'd need to win 18 of the 28 to really be solidified into making it. 16 of our remaining 28 games are against teams that are currently in the playoff position. If we win half of them, we'd need to win 10 of our 12 against non-playoff teams.

Anyway you slice it, it's going to be a rough couple of months.

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87 points won't get us into the playoffs.

Last year, it was 94 points. Both years before that, 92 points. Before those years, we still had ties, so any evidence there is tainted. 90 points was an educated guess based on the previous years. In reality, 94 would be our main target, but if all the remaining teams really started to suck from this point on, 90 would get us in.

59 points, 28 games remaining. We'd need to win 18 of the 28 to really be solidified into making it. 16 of our remaining 28 games are against teams that are currently in the playoff position. If we win half of them, we'd need to win 10 of our 12 against non-playoff teams.

Anyway you slice it, it's going to be a rough couple of months.

Yeah for sure... I was looking at going .500 from here on out as a bare minimum.. if we cant win at least half we are surely done.

I looked at Boston with 85 points and just guessing they would get 120, which may be way too high, but I think detroit hit 120 a couple years back, thats 35 points for them... to stay in that 8th/9th place we would probably have to keep pace with that. Its possible they could hit 120. Boston has won 70% of their games. 70% of 82 is 57 games, so 114 points.. add in 7 points for OTL's and thats 121. So if they hold the pace they have now they will break 120. If you assume every team above us will keep winning, which may or may not happen, the Rangers are struggling, a few other teams are slumping right now, Carolina would need to keep up the same pace or even better. Like you suggested 18 games would be 36 points so that would be 95 points for us at the end of the season. Not impossible.. but a tough task indeed. It seems we will need some help from other teams to make it in.. which is always a bad spot to be in. The other question is, if we make the playoffs in the 7 or 8 spot and have to face Boston or Washington.. is it even worth it? Will we make that much more money for the team in ticket sales and sponsorship to make it worth it for a first round exit? Obviously making it is better then not making it.. but how much better?

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In reality, we probably won't make any money at all, since we sold playoff tickets last year, and those tickets would be usable for our next playoff series, yeah? Something like that

But 2 playoff home games is better than 0 playoff home games. And if we do manage to win 2 games against either team, we'll get 3 playoff home games.

And who really knows what'll happen in the playoffs. It's a completely different animal. Theodore may choke, Ward may keep up his stellar playoff stats, etc. Heck, the very fact of making the playoffs may give the team a huge boost in confidence.

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NY Rangers (4-5-1 in their last 10) plays Washington tonight, Montreal (2-8-0 in their last 10) plays Edmonton. Both of them losing tonight would help us out. Buffalo is playing Ottawa so they will probably win, but if they lost that would help us also.

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In reality, we probably won't make any money at all, since we sold playoff tickets last year, and those tickets would be usable for our next playoff series, yeah? Something like that

Any money paid out for playoffs last year was credited to your STH deposit for this season if you renewed. The tickets themselves were either thrown in the garbage or saved as momentos (not sure why though) because they were invalid.

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We should shoot for 16 wins in out last 28 games. That would be 91 points. Thats very doable - a .570 winning percentage. Drop down to 14 out of 18 and we are more likely to be one the outside looking in. Again. Shows how important every game is, when 1-2 games over the remainder of the season can make or break you.

87 points won't get us into the playoffs.

Last year, it was 94 points. Both years before that, 92 points. Before those years, we still had ties, so any evidence there is tainted. 90 points was an educated guess based on the previous years. In reality, 94 would be our main target, but if all the remaining teams really started to suck from this point on, 90 would get us in.

59 points, 28 games remaining. We'd need to win 18 of the 28 to really be solidified into making it. 16 of our remaining 28 games are against teams that are currently in the playoff position. If we win half of them, we'd need to win 10 of our 12 against non-playoff teams.

Anyway you slice it, it's going to be a rough couple of months.

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The more the Rangers, Habs, and Pens continue to tank, the greater it improves the Canes chances of making the playoffs.

You can scratch the Pens out of that scenario ...... they just won their game against the Sharks in a shootout, and now are tied with the Canes at 59 points. No one is doing us any favors, whatsoever, it seems. :mellow:

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You can scratch the Pens out of that scenario ...... they just won their game against the Sharks in a shootout, and now are tied with the Canes at 59 points. No one is doing us any favors, whatsoever, it seems. :mellow:

The Sabres lost to Ottawa, thats something right?

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buffalo loss is a help.. botom line we take care of buisness we will get in, of course best scenario would be to nestle into 6th place, to avoid boston or caps.. but im got question, i thought southern divisional winne rgot 3rd seed ? im not sure...

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buffalo loss is a help.. botom line we take care of buisness we will get in, of course best scenario would be to nestle into 6th place, to avoid boston or caps.. but im got question, i thought southern divisional winne rgot 3rd seed ? im not sure...

SE div winner is guaranteed a top 3 seed. Which one they get depends on where they stack up to the other 2 top seeds. I doubt Washington catches Boston.

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buffalo loss is a help.. botom line we take care of buisness we will get in, of course best scenario would be to nestle into 6th place, to avoid boston or caps.. but im got question, i thought southern divisional winne rgot 3rd seed ? im not sure...

Its a guaranteed top 3 seed for divisional winner but its still based on points. For example Boston has 100 pts Washington 97 and New Jersey 72... they will be Boston 1, Wash 2 and Jersey 3 and say if Carolina, second in the SE has 94 points, we would be ranked 4th even though we have more points then NJ.. thats the benefit of being the divisional leader.

We should stay 9th though with the tie to pittsburgh correct? They will have 59 points in 56 games, us 59 points in 54 games, so we have the same points in less games. That gives us a better winning percentage.

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buffalo loss is a help.. botom line we take care of buisness we will get in, of course best scenario would be to nestle into 6th place, to avoid boston or caps.. but im got question, i thought southern divisional winne rgot 3rd seed ? im not sure...

The division with the third number of points will get the third seed, Right now, Boston would get the first seed, the Caps the second and whichever team wins the Atlantic the third seed. Should the Canes be the sixth seed, it would be a series the Canes could win. But there is a good deal of hockey to be played.

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Tampa bay is up 4-1 over Toronto in the first.. Martin St Louis has 4 points (1g 3a). And its just the first period.

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worst scenario tonight... cats beat rangers in SO.. ZEDNIK.. WHO ELSE.. then buffalo squanders 4-1 lead to sharks but tie it with 4 seconds left and win in ot... ina matter odf, canes are 5 points behind cats, and behind buffalo... its getting desperation time, canes need them both...

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worst scenario tonight... cats beat rangers in SO.. ZEDNIK.. WHO ELSE.. then buffalo squanders 4-1 lead to sharks but tie it with 4 seconds left and win in ot... ina matter odf, canes are 5 points behind cats, and behind buffalo... its getting desperation time, canes need them both...

Not to make things worse, the Rangers got a point of it tonight too. Not good.

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