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well of course, alot of leadership is shown on the ice, eric does that, i would like to see a little more emotion, but hes a good leader. do the canes win the first game against tampa?

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well of course, alot of leadership is shown on the ice, eric does that, i would like to see a little more emotion, but hes a good leader. do the canes win the first game against tampa?

Agree the Canes will win the first game against Tampa. New team, New Season but enough bad memory remains from the last season ending game loss to motivate the Canes to win and make a statement.

Agree or Disagree: The Hurricanes will sell out for this seasons opening night

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Agree or Disagree: The Hurricanes will sell out for this seasons opening night

Disagree: I doubt many if any sellouts happen in 2011-2012.

Agree or Disagree?

The Canes have an overabundance of 3rd line caliber forwards and 3rd pairing defensemen. And it will be obvious by Thanksgiving with the Canes already at the bottom of the SE division.

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Disagree: I doubt many if any sellouts happen in 2011-2012.

Agree or Disagree?

The Canes have an overabundance of 3rd line caliber forwards and 3rd pairing defensemen. And it will be obvious by Thanksgiving with the Canes already at the bottom of the SE division.

Another one that I'm going to tease apart.

The Canes have an overabundance of 3rd line caliber forwards. Agree. You could argue that the only true top-6 forwards we have are Staal, Skinner, Jokinen and Ruutu right now. While the Canes are hoping that some combination of Poni, Dalpe and Stewart can fill those other 2 spots, it can be argued that we're asking guys to "play up" from being 3rd line caliber players.

The Canes have an overabundance of 3rd line caliber defensemen. Disagree. While it might be argued that we lack a sure-fire 1st pairing, I think Pits, TKabs, Gleason, Allen and McBain can all be considered in the top 2 pairings, with Joslin possibly having the potential to be a top-4 guy in his future.

And it will be obvious by Thanksgiving with the Canes already at the bottom of the SE division. Disagree. While I don't think we've done enough this offseason compared with other teams in the East, I think we've done enough to remain competitively in the middle of the SE division. Washington and Tampa will likely rise to the top, though it will be interesting to see if age starts to impact the Lightning. I think Winnipeg will struggle in their new home, especially at the start of the season and at the end of the season, when travel really starts to take its toll on them. I think the Panthers, though they have a ton of new faces, will need time for those players to learn how to gel together. While I expect Florida to be better than last year, I think they'll start slow.

In other words, Canes in 3rd in the SE, safely in the middle of the division.

Agree/disagree. Skinner will suffer a sophomore slump, scoring less than 20 goals.

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Agree/disagree. Skinner will suffer a sophomore slump, scoring less than 20 goals.

Disagree vehemently. And I better be right or it's going to be a long season.

Skinner came out of the box showing NHL scoring chops and put up enough goals and points to be named to the NHL All Star team straight up. So, it's not like he was sneaking up on people in the second half. Teams leaned on him and ripped his head off, and still he kept scoring. The guy has hands and skills that are just off the hook.

He seems to have and endless supply of baffling moves, and the boy can finnish with the best. After his head scratching move the shot is not into the body of the goalie, but near the open spot or in it.

Some guys can hit 20 goals by catching a few breaks, hitting a few open netters, etc. But you don't put in 30 that way. And Skinner had lots of golden chances for each goal.

Further evidence, last year when most rookies hit the wall, Skinner hit a sort of a beaded curtain that he pushed through and kept on going.

All at the tender age of 18.

So long has he stays relatively healthy, while he may not hit 30 again this year (I think he will, this is a guy who will hit 40 and has a shot at 50 before he's done), 20 goals is the absolute minimum.

Thanks for reminding me of the bright side!

Jussi Jokinen put up a career year two years ago with 65 points, mainly because he potted 30 goals to go with his reliable mid 30's assists. Last year he dropped off a bit, but he had a very slow start, even seeing some 4th line duty.

With his scoring chops proven, and a top 6 role fairly assured, he will not see lower line duty this year. Jussi will break 60 points this year. Agree/Disagree.

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Ok, I am bored so here goes my 2 cents.

Our FO% will improve now that Brindy is behind the bench.

remkin -- Disagree with the FO%. If Roddy could teach Staal and Sutter, et. all, he would have done it already. The way to improve FO% would be to bring in another center. We could try to use Jussi more if needed.

Agreed. I'm sure Brindy already shared his wisdom but in the long run it's all about reflexes, hand-eye coordination and a lot of practice in games. Bringing in another good FO center sure could smooth out some of the lineup issues too but as far as FO's go in general, I don't think we are in that bad of a shape. The big keys will be Staal and Sutter. The better Staal does on FOs the more it would free up Jussi for other lineup options, like backing up Skinner if/when he gets a shot at centering the second line, and our 2d PP unit. Staal better not get kicked out as often as he did last season though, because Poni (20%), Stew (39%), Dalpe (27%) and Skinner (37%) are not much for backups. Brent should be able to handle himself in 4th line and PK situations but it's Sutter's big drop in FO% that has me worried. On average, six out of ten times the top forwards and PP units of our opponents end up with control of the puck whenever he is in the circle.

remkin -- Of the question mark guys, which player will have the most points this year? Poni/Stewart/Boychuk/Daple/LaRose/Sutter/Tlusty?

How many and which players will get near 20 goals of those above?

Sutter/Poni. Agree/Disagree.

Most Points: I believe it will come down to between Poni, Stew and Dalpe, depending who sees the most top-6 minutes. If Skinner stays on wing the odds are against Poni. I see Boychuck as the odd-man out, Rosey and Tlusty will be used mostly on the 3rd or 4th lines, and for Sutter to get the most points, Mo would first have to stop using him as the third offensive defenseman.

20 Goals: I'm going with Poni with Stew as my dark horse.

witchking -- Agree/disagree: Ruutu, in a contract year, will net 25+ goals and 45+ assists (70+ points).

Disagree. Ruutu had a career season with 57 points and played all 82 games for the first time. I think 70+ points would be a real stretch.

Law-Dawg -- Agree or disagree...The addition of Dave Lewis will have a significant positive impact on the power play and development of the young blue liners

Agree about the positive impact, though I'm not familiar with his Czech or Finnish communication skills to get the most out of certain defensemen. Also it's nice to see an NHL caliber coach behind the bench to take the reins just in case JR flips the switch on Mo.

witchking -- Agree/disagree: Jiri Tlusty will not make the opening day roster.

Disagree... providing Tlusty is fully recovered from his shoulder surgery. I think a healthy Tlusty still has more upside than Bowman and Boychuck who are probably better served getting a lot of minutes with the Checkers for now.

OBXer -- Agree / Disagree: With the departure of Cole, the new additions and another year under his belt Eric Staal will step up and become the leader of this team in more than just name only

What witchking said. Staal has been carrying the team on his back for years, often without a compliment of top wingers, and he is who he is. I'd like to hear from folks explaining where they think he has failed or what he needs to do to be a better leader.

dinz -- do the canes win the first game against tampa?

Agree, off course they will win dinz...though I'm not so sure they will win the next 19 after that. :grin:

TheBigKahuna -- Agree or Disagree?

The Canes have an overabundance of 3rd line caliber forwards and 3rd pairing defensemen. And it will be obvious by Thanksgiving with the Canes already at the bottom of the SE division.

Agree, though I believe the Jets will hold the honor by Thanksgiving. Also agree that we have an abundance of 3rd line caliber forwards. Should provide for some interesting discussions once the "pin-everything-on-Mo" mob shows up again.

witchking -- Agree/disagree. Skinner will suffer a sophomore slump, scoring less than 20 goals.

Disagree. Granted, the possibility is always there especially if Mo goes nuts messing with the lines and takes him out of his comfort zone but I highly doubt that JR will allow that to happen. Skinner is a natural scorer who blazed his way through the season with more confidence than most and I'm sure it will carry over to next year. Considering his slow start last season, I can easily see him with 70+ points this year.

remkin -- With his scoring chops proven, and a top 6 role fairly assured, he will not see lower line duty this year. Jussi will break 60 points this year. Agree/Disagree.

Agree. Jussi missed 12 games last year and his 3rd/4th line minutes were only precautionary and not because he didn't fit in anywhere else or played bad. If he can stay healthy I expect him to get 60-70 points.

Agree/Disagree

Boucher playing 15-20 games will be ideal for him and Cam

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Dadgum Whaler, come up for air, LOL.

Whaler: Agree/Disagree

Boucher playing 15-20 games will be ideal for him and Cam

I've wondered how Cam would feel about sitting 20 games. So, I agree if it's around 15 but it's shaky if they want him to sit as many as 20. I think it's going to be a challenge to decide when to sit him.

Agree\Disagree: The Canes come out of the first 20 games at .500.

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Agree\Disagree: The Canes come out of the first 20 games at .500.

Agree

Lets take a look... my far fetched educated guess...

1 Lightning W

2 Caps W

3 Devils W

Surprising 3-0 start will get us excited...

4 Bruins L

5 Sabres W

6 Bruins L

7 Blues W

A more typical win-lose pattern. 5-2

8 Jets W

9 Sens W

A few wins against less then stellar teams. 7-2

10 Blackhawks L

11Flyers L

12 Lightning L

13 Capitals L

A typical early season losing streak. 7-6

14 Stars W

15 Devils W

A few rebound wins. 9-6

16 Rangers L

17Penguins L

18 Flyers L

19 Canadiens W

20 Sabres L

End the first twenty on a rough patch against tough teams. 10-10.

I expect us to be exactly .500 after the first twenty.

Agree/Disagree: Drawing a blank... hmm... Anthony Stewart will produce 20 or more goals next season.

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Agree/Disagree: Drawing a blank... hmm... Anthony Stewart will produce 20 or more goals next season.

Agree, depending on the ice time he sees and what line he's placed on. I think him and Sutter could gel and both will score around the 20 goal mark. That's the optimist in me.

Agree\Disagree: The Canes come out of the first 20 games at .500.

There's two situations IMO. Either the team comes together throughout camp and preseason and produces, or they falter early trying to find some chemistry. If they come together quickly, I can see us a few games above .500, say 12-8 or 14-6. I think we could beat the Pens and Rags possibly, so probably the same as Ichigo's guess, but also able to beat the Sabres twice and maybe take a game from the Flyers and maybe the Blackhawks (we tend to do well against top tier Western Conf. teams).

Agree/Disagree: With the addition of Kaberle, Stewart, Ponikarovsky our PP goes from 24th in the league to top 15.

Agree/Disagree: Also Tim Brent has played his best hockey at the RBC center, he surprises fans and puts up 30+ points and 13+ goals from the 4th/3rd line, and thrives at home games.

I made two ;D

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Agree/Disagree: Also Tim Brent has played his best hockey at the RBC center, he surprises fans and puts up 30+ points and 13+ goals from the 4th/3rd line, and thrives at home games.

Disagree I don't think Brent will get 13 + goals centering the 4th line but I do think he will get 10-12 goals and 30 points with Dwyer on his wing should be possible. What we should get from Brent is good shot blocking and a better PK.

Since I only answered one of your question I will re-post the other.

Agree/Disagree: With the addition of Kaberle, Stewart, Ponikarovsky our PP goes from 24th in the league to top 15.

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Disagree I see our PP going from 24th to 24th. We didn't improve on anything we made lateral moves to maintain status quo in terms of ability. Coaching if anything will improve the PP. Our PP is entirely too stagnet.

Agree or Disagree: The horn boy should only blow the horn 3 times, after that it's just kinda weird. Sorry I really had nothing :)

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Agree, it reminds me of the old NFL saying "Act like you've done it before". That is in regards to scoring a touchdown, but the point rings true for scoring a goal... Also, they should get rid of all that extra stuff: I.E. the Flintstones sound effects and whatever else is in there... sounds kinda childish and not professional IMO.

Agree or Disagree: Rod Brind'Amour's number retiring ceremony was the best of the three.

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Agree or Disagree: Rod Brind'Amour's number retiring ceremony was the best of the three.

Agree, he's one who kept his emotions in check during his playing years but his speech and ceremony was very emotional.

Agree or disagree: The Cap going up every year will lead to another lock out when the CBA is up for renewal again making the last lockout a waste of time (except for the fact the Canes took full advantage and won the Cup coming out of the lock out year).

Coastal, great thread idea :)

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Agree or disagree: The Cap going up every year will lead to another lock out when the CBA is up for renewal again making the last lockout a waste of time (except for the fact the Canes took full advantage and won the Cup coming out of the lock out year).

Coastal, great thread idea :)

In substance, I disagree. BUT, I've been following this issue every since I heard Donald Fehr's name mentioned as a possible replacement to lead the NHL Players Association. He played a huge part in why I quit following pro baseball. Here's a pretty good blog on the subject from the Denver Post, and is worth reading: Another NHL Lockout Possible?

And to peak interest, here is a short excerpt from the blog article-

*** There’s an awful lot of worry that the hard-cap, everybody’s equal system will produce another Edmonton-Carolina, Anaheim-Ottawa type of Stanley Cup Finals. Crass as it sounds, the reality is NHL execs, owners (except in those cities) and TV execs live in fear of such match-ups occurring again, because they got NO ratings and probably never would. No ratings means no TV money, and no TV money is a big reason why the last lockout happened and could happen again.

Agree\Disagree: Dave Lewis will implement some form of a trap system similar to what Tampa Bay ran last year.

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Agree\Disagree: Dave Lewis will implement some form of a trap system similar to what Tampa Bay ran last year.

Agree. But ugh. Trap is so boring. Of course, boring is better than groaning, which we did plenty of last year.

Agree/disagree: Pits will have more assists than TKabs.

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Agree. But ugh. Trap is so boring. Of course, boring is better than groaning, which we did plenty of last year.

Agree/disagree: Pits will have more assists than TKabs.

Disagree! Pitkanen had 30 assists last season, Kabs had 43 (I think), so history says Kaberle should have more. Also on his side are the fact(s) that he is a PP "specialist", and will get a lot of PP time I figure. Also, aren't we paying him to be our best offensive defensiveman? So, all-around, Kaberle should have more assists than Pitkanen by season's end.

Agree/Disagree: With the RBC Center set to be renamed the PNC Center, Pittsburgh Penguins fans will have little trouble finding ways to heckle us more than they already do.

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Disagree! Pitkanen had 30 assists last season, Kabs had 43 (I think), so history says Kaberle should have more. Also on his side are the fact(s) that he is a PP "specialist", and will get a lot of PP time I figure. Also, aren't we paying him to be our best offensive defensiveman? So, all-around, Kaberle should have more assists than Pitkanen by season's end.

Agree/Disagree: With the RBC Center set to be renamed the PNC Center, Pittsburgh Penguins fans will have little trouble finding ways to heckle us more than they already do.

Agree.

I was born and raised in Pittsburgh, but my father was never really into hockey. It was all about the Steelers growing up, so I'm still a huge Steeler fan.

As for hockey, that's grown on me over the past 20 years or so, and since moving here to NC and the Canes following shortly thereafter, I've adopted them as my team. If the Canes can't win it, though, I do hope the Pens succeed.

That being said, when I took my family to the Canes/Pens playoff game (game 3) in the ECF... the place looked about half/half Canes fans and Pens fans. I know the Steelers travel well; I know there are a lot of native Pittsburghers -- like myself -- who have departed the city for other parts of the nation. Not sure there needs to be many more reasons to heckle, but they should show some respect. One of these days Crosby, Malkin et al will retire and they'll be a struggling franchise. Gotta keep that in mind before you open your mouth. :-)

Agree/disagree: The Canes are the most likely team to displace one of the 8 teams that made the playoffs in the East last season.

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Agree/disagree: The Canes are the most likely team to displace one of the 8 teams that made the playoffs in the East last season.

Disagree, I like the Devils and the Islanders before the Canes, unfortunately.

Agree/Disagree:

Firing Peter Laviolette was a big mistake.

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Agree/Disagree:

Firing Peter Laviolette was a big mistake.

Disagree, eventhough I hated seeing him go. In the end, I think he lost the locker room and the support of team leaders, specifically Brindy (judging by his comments and body language when asked about Lavi in interviews and during his retirement ceremony), and JR's support when he missed the playoffs yet again and sent everyone home without arranging exit interviews with the players, and then getting off to another unimpressive start.

After "Homer" traded Flyer Cpt. Mike Richards (with Lavi behind the bench), it made me wonder if JR maybe, just maybe, focused on the wrong guy.

Staying with a subject...

After Lavi was fired, who deserves the most credit for finishing the regular season 33-19-5, making the playoffs and going to the Conference Finals?

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Disagree, eventhough I hated seeing him go. In the end, I think he lost the locker room and the support of team leaders, specifically Brindy (judging by his comments and body language when asked about Lavi in interviews and during his retirement ceremony), and JR's support when he missed the playoffs yet again and sent everyone home without arranging exit interviews with the players, and then getting off to another unimpressive start.

After "Homer" traded Flyer Cpt. Mike Richards (with Lavi behind the bench), it made me wonder if JR maybe, just maybe, focused on the wrong guy.

Staying with a subject...

After Lavi was fired, who deserves the most credit for finishing the regular season 33-19-5, making the playoffs and going to the Conference Finals?

Well, this isn't exactly an agree/disagree question, but I'll answer it. I believe the players deserve the most credit for turning that season around and making a run. I think if the speculation is correct, that Lavi lost the locker room, that the only criteria JR needed was to place a "player's coach" in there to settle things down, and the players would take care of producing on the ice. Didn't have to be Mo, but given JR's penchant for recycling and his availability, it made prudent sense.

Now, the fact that we're sticking with Mo after he's missed the playoffs two years in a row is a little disconcerting.

So, agree/disagree: If Mo doesn't keep this team in the top 9 by December 31, he's gone.

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Well, this isn't exactly an agree/disagree question, but I'll answer it. I believe the players deserve the most credit for turning that season around and making a run. I think if the speculation is correct, that Lavi lost the locker room, that the only criteria JR needed was to place a "player's coach" in there to settle things down, and the players would take care of producing on the ice. Didn't have to be Mo, but given JR's penchant for recycling and his availability, it made prudent sense.

Now, the fact that we're sticking with Mo after he's missed the playoffs two years in a row is a little disconcerting.

So, agree/disagree: If Mo doesn't keep this team in the top 9 by December 31, he's gone.

Agree, though I hope JR doesn't wait 40 games if there are obvious problems. If he doesn't want to miss the playoffs again he needs to react in one way or another and as early as possible. Sitting back for half the season watching a .500 team and doing nothing is not going to cut it IMO. If we struggle out of the gate, my guess is he'll acquire another player first and then give Maurice 5-10 games to put up or shut up.

Agree/Disagree - Should Maurice get fired, Lewis is the best choice to take over as head coach.

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Agree/Disagree - Should Maurice get fired, Lewis is the best choice to take over as head coach.

Agree, kinda. I think JR brought him here with that in mind. It doesn't mean that there isn't anyone out there who could do a better job, but I would say that having him step up and finish the season with them would be the most logical decision. Then, if needed, find a permanent guy in the off season. Of course if it were up to me, I'd get Kurt Russel and dress him up as Herb Brooks again, have him give it a try.

Agree/Disagree: Cole will come short of matching last season's success on the ice.

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Agree/Disagree: Cole will come short of matching last season's success on the ice.

I'd be surprised if he has another healthy season. And the fans up there won't be happy about him missing wide open nets. He's NEVER played under constant scrutiny...and that pressure will be very new to him.

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Agree/Disagree: Cole will come short of matching last season's success on the ice.

Agree. Cole's situation here was far superior to the situation he will see there. He's not likely to see 1st line time. His lower production in Edmonton was largely due to playing 3rd line. He needs better talent around him to exploit his ability to open up the ice for his teammates.

The move to Montreal was not a bad move for him (+7 Million), nor the Canes (did not overpay by 7 million). The bad move was by Montreal.

Agree/Disagree:

The Hurricanes will have relatively serious attendance issues this season.

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Agree, kinda. I think JR brought him here with that in mind. It doesn't mean that there isn't anyone out there who could do a better job, but I would say that having him step up and finish the season with them would be the most logical decision. Then, if needed, find a permanent guy in the off season. Of course if it were up to me, I'd get Kurt Russel and dress him up as Herb Brooks again, have him give it a try.

Agree/Disagree: Cole will come short of matching last season's success on the ice.

Disagree. While I've critisized Cole up till last year, he really did find his game and his mojo last year. That was no fluke, he brought it night in and night out and while I'd like to deny the impact of his loss as much as the next guy, not keeping him is a big loss. Of course it assumes that he stays relatively healthy, but if he does he will put up 52-65 points. He has historically played well in Montreal also. On his numbers for last year, he would have had even more had he started the year the way he played in the last 3/4 of the year. Just hope he doesn't light us up.

EDIT: Dang. Sorry, hag65 I had this qued up but didn't post right away. I guess it can be point-counter point. I will put a twist on it though, I agree that it was a bad move for Montreal. They overpaid for an injury prone, injury senstive player, and year 4 of that deal might feel a lot different than year one.

I'm running out of ideas but:

Agree or Disagree: Zac Boychuk, Ryan Murphy, and Drayson Bowman: none will make the roster for opening night.

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