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Money should never factor into it. We will play both and the best man will win, as it should be.

Also, Ward has been paid 6+ million per year (3x what Khudobin makes) to be inconsistent and injured for the last three years.

...poor guy.

 

Yeah, I was just making a point that all indications point to him to be the starter since he actually is "supposed" to be the starter and is "paid" to be the starter and has "outplayed" the other potential starter who was brought here as a back up.  

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Yeah, I was just making a point that all indications point to him to be the starter since he actually is "supposed" to be the starter and is "paid" to be the starter and has "outplayed" the other potential starter who was brought here as a back up.  

To be clear I have no problem with Ward starting, I think we will see how it plays out and a #1 will emerge. If we are lucky both will play well, it looks like they will certainly be tested.

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How has Ward earned a start with playing so bad since 2006? People want to say Kudo is having a bad pre-season when Ward has had a totally bad career! Yes he had 1 good playoff session when he helped win the cup but that was because no players knew all of his weak points like they have since 2006! So a couple bad games in preseason by Kudo is better that a bad career!!

 

I'm not implying Ward will remain #1. I do hope he can because that will mean we will be better for it. If you read my post I say that I think Dobby will get plenty of playing time. I think that is because nobody has proven yet they are clearly head and shoulders above the other.

 

Peters set up a competition and IMO Ward has looked a touch better so far. A real test for Peters will come if either falter and what he will decide to do about it. For now I'm hoping both play up to expectations of a #1. I'm not predicting they will or they won't.

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be prepared to hunker down and try and win some 2-1 games... In Cam I trust, dobby too!

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If our defensive effort against Washington was what we consider to be the best we have to offer, do you really think whoever starts in goal will matter much?  This teams problem ain't in goal (right now), HELL, that is the only bright spot at this point!!  Who would have thought that 2 months ago? 

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How has Ward earned a start with playing so bad since 2006? People want to say Kudo is having a bad pre-season when Ward has had a totally bad career! Yes he had 1 good playoff session when he helped win the cup but that was because no players knew all of his weak points like they have since 2006! So a couple bad games in preseason by Kudo is better that a bad career!!

Now DJ, you can't tell me those numbers below are a "totally bad career". You might have forgotten the work horse he was winning over 30 games per season 5 times while the back up goalie stunk and couldn't get us those other 12 wins we needed to make playoffs. It's been a rough couple of seasons with injuries but if he can get us 30 wins and Dobby can get us those other 12-16 than we are in. couldn't get GP,W,L to sit right but the the first #is GP,W,L.

Gp W L

2005-06 21 CAR NHL 28 14 8 2 91 773 682 .882 3.68 0 1484 119 -14.68 3.1 0 2 2 0 Smythe-1

2006-07 22 CAR NHL 60 30 21 6 167 1625 1458 .897 2.93 2 3422 108 -13.02 8.5 0 1 1 6 Byng-69

2007-08 23 CAR NHL 69 37 25 5 180 1870 1690 .904 2.75 4 3930 106 -10.12 10.4 0 1 1 4

2008-09 24 CAR NHL 68 39 23 5 160 1901 1741 .916 2.44 6 3928 92 13.96 12.9 0 1 1 4 AS-7,Hart-17,Vezina-7

2009-10 25 CAR NHL 47 18 23 5 119 1409 1290 .916 2.69 0 2651 95 6.02 9.2 0 3 3 0

2010-11 26 CAR NHL 74 37 26 10 184 2375 2191 .923 2.56 4 4318 89 22.90 16.8 0 1 1 0 AS-8,Byng-48,Vezina-7

2011-12 27 CAR NHL 68 30 23 13 182 2143 1961 .915 2.74 5 3988 98 3.29 13.4 1 0 1 4

2012-13 28 CAR NHL 17 9 6 1 44 477 433 .908 2.84 0 929 105 -1.99 2.7 0 0 0 0

2013-14 29 CAR NHL 30 10 12 6 84 824 740 .898 3.06 0 1645 118 -13.00 3.4 0 1 1 2

Career NHL 461 224 167 53 1211 13397 12186 .910 2.76 21 26295 80.4 1 10 11 20

Edited by danimal-ch1

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We should find out today who's starting correct?

 

Either way it's pretty likley they both start one of the back to backs.

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All indications and my bet is Ward tomorrow and Khudini Saturday (unless Ward has a shut out or stands on his head,  whereby he might get both), but Peters did say he would announce that and the alternate captains today, so could be somewhat interesting. 

 

Edited by remkin

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 Now DJ, you can't tell me those numbers below are a "totally bad career". You might have forgotten the work horse he was winning over 30 games per season 5 times while the back up goalie stunk and couldn't get us those other 12 wins we needed to make playoffs. It's been a rough couple of seasons with injuries but if he can get us 30 wins and Dobby can get us those other 12-16 than we are in. couldn't get GP,W,L to sit right but the the first #is GP,W,L.

Gp W L

2005-06 21 CAR NHL 28 14 8 2 91 773 682 .882 3.68 0 1484 119 -14.68 3.1 0 2 2 0 Smythe-1

2006-07 22 CAR NHL 60 30 21 6 167 1625 1458 .897 2.93 2 3422 108 -13.02 8.5 0 1 1 6 Byng-69

2007-08 23 CAR NHL 69 37 25 5 180 1870 1690 .904 2.75 4 3930 106 -10.12 10.4 0 1 1 4

2008-09 24 CAR NHL 68 39 23 5 160 1901 1741 .916 2.44 6 3928 92 13.96 12.9 0 1 1 4 AS-7,Hart-17,Vezina-7

2009-10 25 CAR NHL 47 18 23 5 119 1409 1290 .916 2.69 0 2651 95 6.02 9.2 0 3 3 0

2010-11 26 CAR NHL 74 37 26 10 184 2375 2191 .923 2.56 4 4318 89 22.90 16.8 0 1 1 0 AS-8,Byng-48,Vezina-7

2011-12 27 CAR NHL 68 30 23 13 182 2143 1961 .915 2.74 5 3988 98 3.29 13.4 1 0 1 4

2012-13 28 CAR NHL 17 9 6 1 44 477 433 .908 2.84 0 929 105 -1.99 2.7 0 0 0 0

2013-14 29 CAR NHL 30 10 12 6 84 824 740 .898 3.06 0 1645 118 -13.00 3.4 0 1 1 2

Career NHL 461 224 167 53 1211 13397 12186 .910 2.76 21 26295 80.4 1 10 11 20

Ward has only gotten the Canes to the playoffs 1 time as him being the #1 goalie!  That is where I get my standard that he should be much better than he has been. 6 million a year as #1 goalie and only gets them into the playoffs 1 time (as the #1) is not good!

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Ward has only gotten the Canes to the playoffs 1 time as him being the #1 goalie!  That is where I get my standard that he should be much better than he has been. 6 million a year as #1 goalie and only gets them into the playoffs 1 time (as the #1) is not good!

 

Are you seriously suggesting that Cam is the only reason we have not made the playoffs? So much for hockey being a team game.

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Ward has only gotten the Canes to the playoffs 1 time as him being the #1 goalie!  That is where I get my standard that he should be much better than he has been. 6 million a year as #1 goalie and only gets them into the playoffs 1 time (as the #1) is not good!

 

Imo that's kind of a moot point right now.  We've got a new coach who has no historical bias.  He said he's going with the goalie who gives us the best chance to win right now.  I've got to trust his decisions until he gives me reason to feel otherwise.

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Well if goalies solely get team's in playoffs I would love to see a Patrick Roy in his prime play for this team this year.

 

I can't wait to see the goalie blame this season.

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After two games, and two different goalie outings---it seems no one is in the "shut-down" or

"difference-maker" mode yet !  :shakeshead:

Edited by UNCCaniac8

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Watching the Calgary broadcast of tonight's game online and they spent 5 minutes of the 1st intermission praising Cam Ward not just for his performance so far tonight but all season. They said the stats don't show it but he has made some amazing saves and is showing the Cam Ward that we knew before the injury bug.

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Watching John and Tripp. Excellent interviews with Cam and Anton and about the kinship between the two of them as well as an interview with Cam about his current journey. Very interesting.

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30 is another annual waste of $6+million. Canes have over $25mil in 4 guys who haven't done a damn positive thing yet this year.

Sucks.    If they can't win soon, they'll be playing to an empty PNC arena.

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30 is another annual waste of $6+million. Canes have over $25mil in 4 guys who haven't done a damn positive thing yet this year.

Sucks.    If they can't win soon, they'll be playing to an empty PNC arena.

You are 100% correct!!

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Bluedevil, in one thread, you say im waiting till they play 20 games, then in this one, McDavid is on 2nd line next yr....which one is it?

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