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Jordan was great, but Skinner was off the charts ..

 

There was one sequence where Skinner took it out of the D-zone, fell down, got stepped on, got up, and in near slow motion worked his way through a picket fence drawing a penalty.  It was great.

 

Just hoping those sequences eventually cash in some goals.

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One step forward, two steps back. Tonight was an embarrassment to anyone not named Peters or Tlusty. I missed the first period, but what I saw except for a short stretch after Tlusty's shorty was a game played entirely in front of our net. Tampa did not seem to have any trouble making crisp passes from stick to stick, while our players consistently whiffed on pucks, missed their teammates with passes, or spent two minutes defending their own zone, then dumping the puck and making a change while watching Tampa charge back up the ice with the puck. Yes, on a night when the rest of the team was woeful, Peters "stole" a point. But in any league other than the NHL, OT losses (counting shootouts as OT in a way) are still losses. We are 14-22. As mediocre as 6 of the 8 teams in the Metro Division have been, a point a game is not going to get us near the playoffs, and that is pretty consistently the vicinity our W-L production has kept us in from Game 1.

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Well hockey gods took away from us on friday, gave back to us on Saturday... Tampa Bay is one of the top teams in the East..

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One step forward, two steps back. Tonight was an embarrassment to anyone not named Peters or Tlusty. I missed the first period, but what I saw except for a short stretch after Tlusty's shorty was a game played entirely in front of our net. Tampa did not seem to have any trouble making crisp passes from stick to stick, while our players consistently whiffed on pucks, missed their teammates with passes, or spent two minutes defending their own zone, then dumping the puck and making a change while watching Tampa charge back up the ice with the puck. Yes, on a night when the rest of the team was woeful, Peters "stole" a point. But in any league other than the NHL, OT losses (counting shootouts as OT in a way) are still losses. We are 14-22. As mediocre as 6 of the 8 teams in the Metro Division have been, a point a game is not going to get us near the playoffs, and that is pretty consistently the vicinity our W-L production has kept us in from Game 1.

I agree. The Canes are really 14 & 22. That's 22 loses ... albeit some loses were not goose-eggs. Wish the coaches could get that win to loss ratio reverse.

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We are 1 pt. out of a playoff spot and 4 pts back from a wild card spot. I agree with those who say you can't just win a point and expect to make the playoffs but those 1 pt games are keeping us in the hunt. At some time we will need to be a team the can finish, a team that can score the timely goal. Until they stop giving points for a regulation tie it isn't really a outright loss although sometimes it feels like it.

 

I know many of us are focused on goal tending issues but we are still a team that can't score more than a couple of goals in most games.  That's the problem.

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If we had just average special teams we'd be in the driver's seat even now.

 

But the premise is that this team is still better than the record and will go on a run of significanly better than a point per game.

 

From a scheduling point of view that will need to be January. That is our "softest" month.

 

That's also why we need to make our trade move before that, hopefully one that helps the PP.

 

Also, Did I miss something? Why is Murphy out? Showcasing Gleason?

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Last night ticked me off. These guys owe Justin Peters a steak dinner or something nice. For crying out loud they spent what seemed like the whole game in their own zone. I'm honestly amazed we were able to get a point out of that and scored 2 goals in the process. Unless it's a triple OT playoff game if you give up 50 shots you deserve to lose.

PP is still woeful.  PK is starting to pick up the same illness.

Unfortunately yes. And it's a real shame to because the PK was actually a bright spot.

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Last night ticked me off. These guys owe Justin Peters a steak dinner or something nice. For crying out loud they spent what seemed like the whole game in their own zone. I'm honestly amazed we were able to get a point out of that and scored 2 goals in the process. Unless it's a triple OT playoff game if you give up 50 shots you deserve to lose.

 

Well put, and welcome back captain_jack, don't be a stranger. ;)

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So we have Columbus in front of us. A division team we need to beat and should beat. We need to bring the intensity of the Washington game, and clean up the overall sloppiness from last night. I also wondered why Gleason played ahead of Murphy. Maybe a matchup issue, or just a maintenance day for Murphy due to back to back games. Anyway, if Harrison is okay, or Komiserek, when does the trade freeze end? I think we need some kind of shakeup sooner than later. Not necessarily just Gleason, but we are back in our 2 goal/game funk. So either someone who can improve the power play or jumpstart the offense 5 on 5.

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bdc, Although we surely could use players like you describe, I'm not at all sure where you'd propose we get them. Surely if they are out there, there must be at least 20 other teams in need of the very same things? I say 29, as I would guess that there are a few teams with different needs?

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Freeze ends the 27th until the Olympic freeze.

 

JR gets paid to make things happen in the trade market for his team. If we need something, and badly, and are close to being a complete team, but won't until we get that last something that we need, then he needs to get it.

 

Unfortunately, I still think one move isn't going to magically save this season, but a couple of really smart moves could greatly increase our chances of finishing this season on the top end of things. I really expect a trade shortly after the holidays. My wishlist for the Hurricanes this holiday season:

 

A true third line center. Have a legitimate 4 line strong forward corps. Eric is obviously our top center, followed by Jordan. Nash is okay, and he's learning out there, but we need to a legitimate experience guy on our third line IMO, someone who is like Matt Cullen, or ideally, Matt Cullen himself. This third line center is responsible defensively, i.e. can play a shut down role when needed, but also has nice hands, i.e. can play the powerplay effectively as well. Cullen was so versatile, I hated seeing him go twice. Someone like him on our third line. Then we'd have Eric, Jordan, Cullen-esque person, Malholtra. Best center depth we'd see in a long time. Reminiscent of Brindy, Staal, Weight, Adams.

 

A powerplay specialist. When people hear PP Specialist they immediately think PP QB, i.e. a defenseman. I wouldn't tough our D. Not at all. Only Gleason and Komi seem expendable. Murphy, Bellemore, Hainsey, Faulk, and most importantly Sekera are all amazing for us so far. I mean PP Specialist as in a playmaker who can set up set plays perfectly. Apparently we lack that completely. Our PP stands there, passes around, and either shoots into a block, a pass gets tipped out of the zone, or the puck is turned over on a play with the boards and cleared out. No movement, no confusion towards the penalty killers, and never a legit high-% shooting lane. Semin is good at making plays, nice crisp creative passes, but I think the language barrier hurts him and makes his ability to perform set plays a little more difficult. But more than that, I believe Semin's knock on playmaking is he thrives in making plays in the moment. And when you're on the powerplay, you're facing the most positionally sound defense you'll face in a game. We need a true playmaker who can feed Semin. We've been trying to set up our PP all wrong giving Semin the playmaking responsibility. We get a true playmaker, and we could have someone feeding Skinner and Semin at will. Then you can put the Staal brothers out together or try Eric back on the point or something.

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. . .But in any league other than the NHL, OT losses (counting shootouts as OT in a way) are still losses. We are 14-22. As mediocre as 6 of the 8 teams in the Metro Division have been, a point a game is not going to get us near the playoffs, and that is pretty consistently the vicinity our W-L production has kept us in from Game 1.

Last I looked we were in the NHL and not any other league, so I'm pretty sure we're 14-14-8. :grin:  But your point is taken, we definitely need to step it up.

 

I also wondered why Gleason played ahead of Murphy. Maybe a matchup issue, or just a maintenance day for Murphy due to back to back games.

Not a maintenance day for Murphy as he was a healthy scratch the previous game and the team was off for about a week before that. I also wonder what the deal is there . . .

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Murphy got off to an amazing start but he has struggled lately, especially along the boards and turning pucks over. I'm not surprised at all he was sat down, but I have high hopes for him. I just want him to get back to how he was playing earlier in the season. I'm not sure if he is being over-coached and not playing his game, is not listening to the coaches, struggling with confidence (although he seems pretty confident), or maybe struggling with the rigors of an NHL season against the top players in the world. I think he has a great future, I just hope he finds his game soon because he brings speed and creativity to our defense (along with Sekera). Still, being a consistent full-time NHL blue-liner at his age are high expectations.

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I don't know if trading Gleason is the answer.  I don't know if trading Peters for whatever he will bring is the answer. Sitting right behind the goal in the 3rd period, all I can say is the last 2 goals were goals he at least had a chance to stop, especially the last one, and he did not get it done. Maybe it is time for Muller to go.  When we get a one goal lead, we seem to sit back and try to hold on for dear life, rather than attacking and trying to extend our lead. That bit us you know where tonight. So whatever the changes may be, I think if we want to have any chance to make the playoffs this season, it is time to shake things up. Even though the standings say we are very much in the hunt, I cannot remember a time this year when we have been more than 1 point above the number of games we have played. That is not going to be enough. JR, do something ... please.

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I don't know if trading Gleason is the answer.  I don't know if trading Peters for whatever he will bring is the answer. Sitting right behind the goal in the 3rd period, all I can say is the last 2 goals were goals he at least had a chance to stop, especially the last one, and he did not get it done. Maybe it is time for Muller to go.  When we get a one goal lead, we seem to sit back and try to hold on for dear life, rather than attacking and trying to extend our lead. That bit us you know where tonight. So whatever the changes may be, I think if we want to have any chance to make the playoffs this season, it is time to shake things up. Even though the standings say we are very much in the hunt, I cannot remember a time this year when we have been more than 1 point above the number of games we have played. That is not going to be enough. JR, do something ... please.

 

 

take a look at the team statistics on NHL.com and you will see the Canes are in the bottom third of the league,  about the only exception is in the goals-allowed stat and for it,  the Canes come in at 17th.   The Canes will need to put some serious win streaks together in the remainder of the season if they expect to be playing playoff hockey.  Given what they have put on ice in the first third of the season, I do not see this happening

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Hahaha Rem. Merry Christmas all! I really hope the team gets their stuff together and goes on a run, we're in danger of falling hard out of the Metro race if we keep losing in bunches.

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Guys... we're 40+ games in. I am now confident when I say that this teams has the horses to put a playoff product on the ice. I know the GM won't change due to being a partial owner. Therefor it's time for a coaching change. Muller is not the answer and things will only get worse.

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