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If we don't make the playoffs this year. JR and our entire scouting staff needs to be fired.

....even if we make the playoffs, including Brindy and Wesley. They are apparently pretty dismal at developing young guys for the NHL.

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Oh come on Whaler. Our fixes have been done by free agency for years. When was the last time we developed good players through our farm system? Faulk is really the only guy that I can think of. Our drafting is the most important part of our team and it has failed. I see it year after year, Bowman, Dalpe, Nash, they are all the same. Something is wrong here.

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Corvo has a knack for going back to teams he attempted to burn bridges at.

 

I was thinking the same when I read he was heading back to the Sens. He must bring something to the table we aren't seeing.

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Wasn't it Ottawa that started the Uh-Oh Corvo thing? For a guy with a narrow comfort zone seems like an odd match.  Then again he probably didn't have a ton of options and teams are always looking for offensive dmen I guess. 

Edited by remkin

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So Burmistrov leaves the Jets and signs in the KHL.  So, what was that "Russian factor" thing again?

More like the "Rouble Factor" if I had to guess!

It appears Burmistrov was unhappy in the Peg and wanted a trade.

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:[ Optimism gets ignored yet pessimism everyone replies to. The world we live in  :letssee:

 

Burmistrov asked for a trade more than one time, and Winnipeg wouldn't move him I'm guessing because they wanted more in a trade. Well, now they get nothing for him. And how is it a Russian Factor, his contract is up. Nothing like the Radulov debacle. A shame, seems like most Canadian market teams don't handle their players very well. Here's to hoping we land someone soon for that bottom 6. Glad Corvo got signed. He played improved after his stint in the press box, but we couldn't afford to keep him around with our "committee" defense. Maybe he does well with Ottawa, would be interesting considering everyone hated him at the time he left.

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Oh come on Whaler. Our fixes have been done by free agency for years. When was the last time we developed good players through our farm system? Faulk is really the only guy that I can think of. Our drafting is the most important part of our team and it has failed. I see it year after year, Bowman, Dalpe, Nash, they are all the same. Something is wrong here.

 

Am not saying that I necessarily disagree but firing or retiring the whole lot won't amount to more than a dumb knee jerk reaction if you don't have "better" replacements on the hook. And cherry picking more successful GMs and scouts under contract doesn't count because KP can't even talk to them unless their owners approve. Since that only leaves the guys collecting unemployment I was curious who you might have in mind.

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Oh come on Whaler. Our fixes have been done by free agency for years. When was the last time we developed good players through our farm system? Faulk is really the only guy that I can think of. Our drafting is the most important part of our team and it has failed. I see it year after year, Bowman, Dalpe, Nash, they are all the same. Something is wrong here.

For every example of a bad draft decision, there are good ones as well.

 

Staal, Ward, Skinner and Faulk have all been drafted by us and are major parts of our team. Andrew Laad was drafted by us as well. Jack Johnson. Erik Cole. Niclas Wallin. Shane Willis. Lots of impactful players (Some cut short by injury, but that's not a drafting issue).

 

Have you seen the list of players drafted by the Red Wings, who everyone raves about their drafting?

 

 

Draft

Num.

Round

Player

2013 Entry

20

1

Anthony Mantha

2013 Entry

48

2

Zach Nastasiuk

2013 Entry

58

2

Tyler Bertuzzi

2013 Entry

79

3

Mattias Janmark-Nylen

2013 Entry

109

4

David Pope

2013 Entry

139

5

Mitch Wheaton

2013 Entry

169

6

Marc McNulty

2013 Entry

199

7

Hampus Melen

 

0

0

         

2012 Entry

     

Draft

Num.

Round

Player

2012 Entry

49

2

Martin Frk

2012 Entry

80

3

Jake Paterson

2012 Entry

110

4

Andreas Athanasiou

2012 Entry

140

5

Mike McKee

2012 Entry

170

6

James De Haas

2012 Entry

200

7

Rasmus Bodin

 

0

0

         

2011 Entry

     

Draft

Num.

Round

Player

2011 Entry

35

2

Tomas Jurco

2011 Entry

48

2

Xavier Ouellet

2011 Entry

55

2

Ryan Sproul

2011 Entry

85

3

Alan Quine

2011 Entry

115

4

Marek Tvrdon

2011 Entry

145

5

Philippe Hudon

2011 Entry

146

5

Mattias Backman

2011 Entry

175

6

Richard Nedomlel

2011 Entry

205

7

Alexei Marchenko

 

0

0

         

2010 Entry

     

Draft

Num.

Round

Player

2010 Entry

21

1

Riley Sheahan

2010 Entry

51

2

Calle Jarnkrok

2010 Entry

81

3

Louis-Marc Aubry

2010 Entry

111

4

Teemu Pulkkinen

2010 Entry

141

5

Petr Mrazek

2010 Entry

171

6

Brooks Macek

2010 Entry

201

7

Ben Marshall

 

0

0

         

2009 Entry

     

Draft

Num.

Round

Player

2009 Entry

32

2

Landon Ferraro

2009 Entry

60

2

Tomas Tatar

2009 Entry

75

3

Andrej Nestrasil

2009 Entry

90

3

Gleason Fournier

2009 Entry

150

5

Nick Jensen

2009 Entry

180

6

Mitch Callahan

2009 Entry

210

7

Adam Almquist

 

0

0

         

2008 Entry

     

Draft

Num.

Round

Player

2008 Entry

30

1

Thomas McCollum

2008 Entry

91

3

Max Nicastro

2008 Entry

121

4

Gustav Nyquist

2008 Entry

151

5

Julien Cayer

2008 Entry

181

6

Stephen Johnston

2008 Entry

211

7

Jesper Samuelsson

 

0

0

         

2007 Entry

     

Draft

Num.

Round

Player

2007 Entry

27

1

Brendan Smith

2007 Entry

88

3

Joakim Andersson

2007 Entry

148

5

Randy Cameron

2007 Entry

178

6

Zack Torquato

2007 Entry

208

7

Bryan Rufenach

 

0

0

         

2006 Entry

     

Draft

Num.

Round

Player

2006 Entry

41

2

Cory Emmerton

2006 Entry

47

2

Shawn Matthias

2006 Entry

62

2

*edit* Axelsson

2006 Entry

92

3

Daniel Larsson

2006 Entry

182

6

Jan Mursak

2006 Entry

191

7

Nick Oslund

2006 Entry

212

7

Logan Pyett

 

0

0

         

2005 Entry

     

Draft

Num.

Round

Player

2005 Entry

19

1

Jakub Kindl

2005 Entry

42

2

Justin Abdelkader

2005 Entry

80

3

Christofer Lofberg

2005 Entry

103

4

Mattias Ritola

2005 Entry

132

5

Darren Helm

2005 Entry

137

5

Johan Ryno

2005 Entry

151

5

Jeff May

2005 Entry

175

6

Juho Mielonen

2005 Entry

214

7

Bretton Stamler

 

0

0

         

2004 Entry

     

Draft

Num.

Round

Player

2004 Entry

97

3

Johan Franzen

2004 Entry

128

4

Evan McGrath

2004 Entry

151

5

Sergei Kolosov

2004 Entry

162

5

Tyler Haskins

2004 Entry

192

6

Anton Axelsson

2004 Entry

226

7

Steve Covington

2004 Entry

257

8

Gennady Stolyarov

2004 Entry

290

9

Nils Backstrom

 

0

0

         

2003 Entry

     

Draft

Num.

Round

Player

2003 Entry

64

2

Jim Howard

2003 Entry

132

4

Kyle Quincey

2003 Entry

164

5

Ryan Oulahen

2003 Entry

170

6

Andreas Sundin

2003 Entry

194

6

Stefan Blom

2003 Entry

226

7

Tomas Kollar

2003 Entry

258

8

Vladimir Kutny

2003 Entry

289

9

Mikael Johansson

 

0

0

         

2002 Entry

     

Draft

Num.

Round

Player

2002 Entry

58

2

Jiri Hudler

2002 Entry

63

2

Tomas Fleischmann

2002 Entry

95

3

Valtteri Filppula

2002 Entry

131

4

Johan Berggren

2002 Entry

166

5

Logan Koopmans

2002 Entry

197

6

Jimmy Cuddihy

2002 Entry

229

7

Derek Meech

2002 Entry

260

8

Pierre-Olivier Beaulieu

2002 Entry

262

9

Christian Soderstrom

2002 Entry

291

9

Jonathan Ericsson

 

0

0

         

2001 Entry

     

Draft

Num.

Round

Player

2001 Entry

62

2

Igor Grigorenko

2001 Entry

121

4

Drew MacIntyre

2001 Entry

129

4

Miroslav Blatak

2001 Entry

157

5

Andreas Jamtin

2001 Entry

195

6

Nick Pannoni

2001 Entry

258

8

Dmitry Bykov

2001 Entry

288

9

Francois Senez

 

0

0

         

2000 Entry

     

Draft

Num.

Round

Player

2000 Entry

29

1

Niklas Kronwall

2000 Entry

38

2

Tomas Kopecky

2000 Entry

102

4

Stefan Liv

2000 Entry

127

4

Dmitri Semenov

2000 Entry

128

4

Alexander Seluyanov

2000 Entry

130

4

Aaron Van Leusen

2000 Entry

187

6

Par Backer

2000 Entry

196

6

Paul Ballantyne

2000 Entry

228

7

Jimmie Svensson

2000 Entry

251

8

Todd Jackson

2000 Entry

260

8

Evgeni Bumagin

 

 

A few wows in there - notably what they did in 2002, but overall. this isn't that much different that what we do each year. Lots of never made its and a few "oh wow, thats cool" mixed in there.  

 

And being a GM obviously has a lot more roles than just drafting. The overall trade record for JR is outstanding. Just off the top of my head...

 

Keith Premieu for Rod Brind'Amor

Danny Richmond for Justin Williams

Kevyn Adams for Denis Sidenberg

Wade Brookbank and Josef Melichar for Jussi Jokinen

Philippe Paradis for Juri Tlusty

 

Singing Free agents - over the last 10 years, there has only been one where JR clearly messed up and that was Tomas Kaberle. Look at some of the signings that just happened - 7 years for Nathan Horton?!?! - and think that in all the time here, JR may have made some mistakes, but only one stands out in your mind as a "wow that was bad" signing. And then think about some of the moves Toronto has made. Montreal. And so on.

 

I'm stoked to have JR. It's a job that mistakes seem to stand out more than success and honestly, I think of his successes well before his mistakes and that is rare for a GM.

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The names you mentioned aside from Faulk (Staal, Ward, Skinner) were 1st round draft picks. They hardly touched the AHL. The only reason they did was due to a lock out. We have 0 forwards that can produce at the NHL level that come from our farm system. Not one! Is that not concerning?

Dalpe, Bowman, Nash? I don't even bank on them producing 20 points combined. That is a problem.

Edited by bluedevil58

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golfpro827:

 

I won't tag that quote, I'll just put the Z's here. You do realize that 3 of the 4 active players no longer play for us?

Edited by winger52

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:[ Optimism gets ignored yet pessimism everyone replies to. The world we live in  :letssee:

 

Burmistrov asked for a trade more than one time, and Winnipeg wouldn't move him I'm guessing because they wanted more in a trade. Well, now they get nothing for him. And how is it a Russian Factor, his contract is up. Nothing like the Radulov debacle. A shame, seems like most Canadian market teams don't handle their players very well. Here's to hoping we land someone soon for that bottom 6. Glad Corvo got signed. He played improved after his stint in the press box, but we couldn't afford to keep him around with our "committee" defense. Maybe he does well with Ottawa, would be interesting considering everyone hated him at the time he left.

 

Burmistrov is an RFA and the Jets retain his rights if he decides to come back.  Although it may not be a "russian factor" it doesn't help to get rid of the stigma either.  But, I can't say as I blame him if he fell out of favor and they wouldn't move him. 

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Sadly, I don't see Rod making into the HOF this time...too many bigger names ahead of him...and not enough slots available.  HE WILL MAKE IT...eventually

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Burmistrov is an RFA and the Jets retain his rights if he decides to come back.  Although it may not be a "russian factor" it doesn't help to get rid of the stigma either.  But, I can't say as I blame him if he fell out of favor and they wouldn't move him. 

I think GMs are going to have to factor in a "Russian factor" of players having an option to go back home and make similar money as what they can make in the NHL. I just feel that it becomes a concern for GMs.

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Ok...so I am not trying to start rumors but...Czech news is reporting Jagr has signed with us for 3-3.5m and a 1 yr deal. Take it for what it's worth. I have no link so it's probably garbage. But....you just never know. Stand by for more info.

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Eklund is reporting we are the front runners:

 

"Jagr is back talking to Montreal, but Carolina still is the team to beat...Philly isn't an impossibility if a trade (Cobourn) can be made I was told. Giroux is a HUGE supporter of bringing in Jags."

 

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklund/To-avoid-criticism-say-nothingdo-nothingbe-nothing-BuzzCast-and-Rumors/1/52683

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