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1 hour ago, AWACSooner said:

One of the players I wish we never would’ve traded.  

Right there with you. Somewhere way way back in our archives are lots of bandwidth of me complaining about trading that guy.

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11 minutes ago, sundance-ch1 said:

I believe he was the best 3rd Line Center we ever had. Any other nominees?

Sutter would be a nominee but he'd lose in a rout to Cullen.

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36 minutes ago, remkin said:

Right there with you. Somewhere way way back in our archives are lots of bandwidth of me complaining about trading that guy.

Siedenberg was another one...but I’m happy he got his Cup with the B’s

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4 minutes ago, AWACSooner said:

Siedenberg was another one...but I’m happy he got his Cup with the B’s

Yup and for me Sekera too.

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8 minutes ago, remkin said:

Yup and for me Sekera too.

Nah...we got a first for him and we sucked majorly that year.  I was ok with it.

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21 minutes ago, AWACSooner said:

Nah...we got a first for him and we sucked majorly that year.  I was ok with it.

We got McKeown and what ended up being Gauthier for him. Missed Sekera, but he has been injured, and I guess right now better to have McKeown and Gauthier. It will be interesting to see if and what either or both of them end up doing at the NHL level.

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5 hours ago, OBXer said:

One of my Favorite Canes.  I wish him well.

Cullen retires after 21 seasons - TSN

 

Cullen is a three-time Stanley Cup champion (with the Carolina Hurricanes in 2006 and the Penguins in 2016 and 2017),

 

 

I didn't give an edit for him - really he was just another reason for me to hate the Pens.  It's a wash though because now i have a new reason to pull against their farm club whenever it visits Bojangles.

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On 7/10/2019 at 6:34 PM, realmdrakkar said:

 

I didn't give an edit for him - really he was just another reason for me to hate the Pens.  It's a wash though because now i have a new reason to pull against their farm club whenever it visits Bojangles.

You have to admit, though, that he had the best porn-stache during the Cup parade.

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Kevin Dineen hired as coach of the San Diego Gulls

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Good for Francis. It will be interesting to see if he stays the course of patience and building a team through the draft. His reluctance to give up assets to make the "bug" trade drove me crazy but you can't argue that the players he did develop and bring into the Hurricanes have become a major part of the team.

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Got this going on two threads but good for Francis. Wonder if he held out for this job. Seems like a fascinating opportunity to build from the ground up. Obviously only a handful of GM's ever get that chance.

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2 hours ago, OBXer said:

Good for Francis. It will be interesting to see if he stays the course of patience and building a team through the draft. His reluctance to give up assets to make the "bug" trade drove me crazy but you can't argue that the players he did develop and bring into the Hurricanes have become a major part of the team.

The reason Ronnie Franchise is perfect for a start up is that essentially he has done it before.  When he took over the Canes from JR the farm system was bare.  He drafted well, traded well, all with an eye for the long run.  I doubt the Seattle franchise will replicate what Las Vegas did in their initial year, and letting him go after TD bought the Canes was probably right. 

Being from Hartford originally and a Whaler fan from the get go, I am very pleased to see both Ronnie and Kevin Dineen land on their feet.  Only wished the Canes had hired Dineen.

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2 hours ago, OBXer said:

Good for Francis. It will be interesting to see if he stays the course of patience and building a team through the draft. His reluctance to give up assets to make the "bug" trade drove me crazy but you can't argue that the players he did develop and bring into the Hurricanes have become a major part of the team.

 

My take is that RFs problem was that he seemed to make his philosophy "absolute".  Develop from within and never "lose" an individual trade, even if it might make the team better overall.  Presumably he's a very bright guy and hopefully has learned that exceptions are sometimes appropriate.  

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1 hour ago, LakeLivin said:

 

My take is that RFs problem was that he seemed to make his philosophy "absolute".  Develop from within and never "lose" an individual trade, even if it might make the team better overall.  Presumably he's a very bright guy and hopefully has learned that exceptions are sometimes appropriate.  

 

When he made a big move, Scott Darling, it didn't exactly work out. So there is that. We all take chances make mistakes

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3 minutes ago, OBXer said:

 

When he made a big move, Scott Darling, it didn't exactly work out. So there is that. We all take chances make mistakes

 

Could well be.  Another factor might have been an overemphasis on long term perspective with too little regard for the short term.  Don't get me wrong, I don't think you sacrifice the long term for the immediate, I just don't think it can be an absolute.. Of course, it's easy for me to sit on my couch and speculate on things RF did wrong, lol. :P

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26 minutes ago, LakeLivin said:

 

Could well be.  Another factor might have been an overemphasis on long term perspective with too little regard for the short term.  Don't get me wrong, I don't think you sacrifice the long term for the immediate, I just don't think it can be an absolute.. Of course, it's easy for me to sit on my couch and speculate on things RF did wrong, lol. :P

 

Me too. Actually I thought RF did exactly what he set out to do. Build from within adding some pieces along the way Aho and TT for example.It appeared to me the different philosophy between Dundon and Francis was what ended his term with the Canes. I have no complaints with Francis. I wish him well and glad he will be building a team out west.

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I liked a lot of what Francis did. I think it is fair to point out the continuation of the weakness this franchise has had for years in goal though. Not just Darling but Lack and the "lack" of hitting on goalies in the pipeline while praying Cam would turn it around. This is also a JR thing.

 

I will credit them with taking Ned. 2014 high second round, there were goalies taken 4,6,7,9. Thatcher Demko was the biggest name and he went one spot ahead of us. Ned has been as good as him and far better than the other two. Time will tell on the NHL potential.

 

But, IMVHO. I added the "very" because....goalies. But I think the committee has made 7 significant goalie decisions. 1. Mrazek. 2. Cutting bait on Mongo early. 3. McE 4. Drafting Pytr Kochetkov and 5. Mrazek again 6. Reimer 7. Anton Forsberg. The first three are proven successes. We shall see on the others, but Mrazek did his best the last 5 months he's played, so that can't be bad, and I think Kochetkov has franchise-goalie potential. Reimer and Forsberg I'm shakier on, but the committee has had a pretty good hand on goalies, so I'm staying optimistic. I will say this on Forsberg, he's had some really good AHL numbers over a long time. NHL more mixed, but there is potential there it would seem, and Reimer is coming off of a bad year, but the previous year was pretty decent and the year before that was strong. 

 

But Francis, for all his strengths was not the goalie whisperer is what I'm saying. He kept thinking we were fine in goal, and rolled Mongo out there a lot two years ago (OK the coach did technically). And I know that's tough for any GM, but getting it wrong really sets the entire team back.

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It looks like DiGi will have another Gig

Report: Rangers Sign Phil Di Giuseppe to One-Year, $700,000 Contract

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2 hours ago, OBXer said:

It looks like DiGi will have another Gig

 

 

I'm very disappointed you didn't say 'DiGi will have another GiGi', but maybe next time...

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