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The Positive Thread: Any Optimistic Nuggets of Positivity in the Gloom

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Didn't know whether to put this here, or in the regular season talk, but nice article in the N&O on Nestrasil. He is quickly becoming one of my favorite Canes, which has become a quickly shrinking bunch consisting of Nesty, Rask, Lindholm, and Faulk.

http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/nhl/carolina-hurricanes/article14572781.html

Also, thanks for the update on the chalk talk, Rem. Good stuff there. I agree with coastal on the "good" coaching staff and the need for the skill to match it. It has become glaringly obvious that Francis needs to upgrade a lot of positions on the ice, and it is going to take time. This bunch isn't a tweak away from good.

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Any hints from Roddie on what next to get Semin to the next level?

 

Also really appreciate you sharing that, that's more interesting stuff then any reporter would get out of a coach.

 

I mean, if Chip asked Peters at a press conference if we wanted a higher pick he'd get chewed out most likely by coach speak.

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Any hints from Roddie on what next to get Semin to the next level?

 

Also really appreciate you sharing that, that's more interesting stuff then any reporter would get out of a coach.

 

I mean, if Chip asked Peters at a press conference if we wanted a higher pick he'd get chewed out most likely by coach speak.

 

It was actually brought up,and Rod pretty much said, who knows, but he's under a long contract so we have to find a way. An interesting side note is that a fan who was at the Casino night had Semin at her table and said he said< "I not play so good this year.".

 

Sounds like it is a true enigma. Or at least he's not letting on.

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There is a nice article (from about a week ago) at Hockeysfuture.com titled:

"Carolina Hurricanes prospects show promise despite frustrating season."

It talks about most improved player, hardest shot, etc..

Trevor Carrick won prospect of the year and hardest shot. Sounds good.

Brock McGinn won hardest worker (no surprise).

Most improved player went to Brendon Woods. I posted something during the season then deleted it. I like what I saw from this guy, he brings size, toughness, and I thought he had some good scoring chances by going to the net.

Potential breakout player went to Brett Pesce.

Best defensive prospect, Haydn Fleury.

Overachiever, Justin Shugg.

Underachiever, Patrick Brown.

Fastest skater, Erik Karlsson.

Highest risk/reward, Sergei Tolchinsky.

Anyway, it's a nice article that gives you some hope (even though we are ranked 29th overall in terms of prospects). Maybe after this year's draft and the next we will rank much higher.

Sorry I can't post the link (from my phone while waiting for my client at work).

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There is a nice article (from about a week ago) at Hockeysfuture.com titled:

"Carolina Hurricanes prospects show promise despite frustrating season."

Sorry I can't post the link (from my phone while waiting for my client at work).

 

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/articles/123105/carolina-hurricanes-prospects-show-promise-despite-frustrating-season/

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There is a nice article (from about a week ago) at Hockeysfuture.com titled:

"Carolina Hurricanes prospects show promise despite frustrating season."

It talks about most improved player, hardest shot, etc..

Trevor Carrick won prospect of the year and hardest shot. Sounds good.

Brock McGinn won hardest worker (no surprise).

Most improved player went to Brendon Woods. I posted something during the season then deleted it. I like what I saw from this guy, he brings size, toughness, and I thought he had some good scoring chances by going to the net.

Potential breakout player went to Brett Pesce.

Best defensive prospect, Haydn Fleury.

Overachiever, Justin Shugg.

Underachiever, Patrick Brown.

Fastest skater, Erik Karlsson.

Highest risk/reward, Sergei Tolchinsky.

Anyway, it's a nice article that gives you some hope (even though we are ranked 29th overall in terms of prospects). Maybe after this year's draft and the next we will rank much higher.

Sorry I can't post the link (from my phone while waiting for my client at work).

Actually Tolchinsky is almost zero risk.  Worst case is the organization is out &340,000 and a contract spot for 3 years.  Max best case would be if he became the next Marty St. Louis.

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I hate to bring down the doom and gloom feeling in the other threads, so I figured i'd post this here.  So far so good for a number of our prospects.  Here are a few numbers:

 

Tolchinsky- 5pts in 4 games

Di Giuseppe- 5pts in 4 games

Carrick- 6pts in 4 games

Slavin- 5pts in 4 games

Wallmark- 8pts in 7 games (in tough swedish league)

Fluery- 8pts in 7 games

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Thanks PK. Also, Derek Ryan has 4 pts and 3g in the first 4 games.  And those stats aren't all from the CHL.  All except Wallmark and Fleury are playing with the Chex in the AHL.  

 

Checkers have started out 3-1 and are averaging over 5 goals/ game (unfortunately they lost the last game 9-5 which boosted their goals against average to 4 per game). 

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Noah Hanifin. :applause:

 

Not often that a defenseman is so smooth and skilled that he stands out. And this one is 18. He is even showing flashes of subtle offensive prowess.

 

I think this team really could have used one of the forwards drafted 1-4, and it will be a pain to have to find those guys moving forward, but Hanifin is far more than a consolation prize. Even if we end up trading one of our other defensive prospects, this guy is the real deal that every good team needs to anchor the defense.

 

I just can't stop shaking my head at Craig Button.  :screwy:. Missed that one.

 

Just imagine this kid in a couple of years. He will be better than Faulk.

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Right now we're on pace for a 41 point season which I'm pretty sure would lock us up for the best chance at Austin Matthews?

 

:P:sarcasm:

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May not feel like it, or sound like on these boards, but it got my attention last night hearing Forslund say "Canes are 3 and 3 on this road trip" as they head to Brooklyn.

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Positive note Canes finally have a GOON, a guy that will fight and bully his opponents :mad:...too bad he is only a 5'5 Gerber baby...but still getting it done...Go Gerbs.... 

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Brett Pesce. Anticipation was pretty high that he would end up being good, but this good, this soon? Also Canes hit with a pick after the second round for the first time in a long time. If he ends up being as good as he looks like he will be, he is a very solid to good NHL defenseman with size. Yes is was a high third rounder, but still a third rounder. The best home grown, lower than second rounder I can think of in quite a while, no offense to Drayson Bowman.

 

If we assume that Murphy continues to improve and partiulalry his offensive game, and that Hayden Fleury is ready in the next couple of years we have in no particular order or attention to side played:

 

Hanifin-Faulk

Fleury-Pesce

Murphy-McKeown

 

It is not hard to envision that as one of the best defenses in the NHL in a few years. May need to fold a veteran in there, but the point is, that Pesce turning out as good as he seems to be, lets us focus almost all of our drafting and UFA work on forwards.

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Brett Pesce.

 

You could have stopped right there and your point would have been loud and clear.  4 NHL games and only 7 further games at any professional level.  I'm downright giddy about this kid.  My new favorite Hurricane, to be sure.

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Brett Pesce. Anticipation was pretty high that he would end up being good, but this good, this soon? Also Canes hit with a pick after the second round for the first time in a long time. If he ends up being as good as he looks like he will be, he is a very solid to good NHL defenseman with size. Yes is was a high third rounder, but still a third rounder. The best home grown, lower than second rounder I can think of in quite a while, no offense to Drayson Bowman.

 

If we assume that Murphy continues to improve and partiulalry his offensive game, and that Hayden Fleury is ready in the next couple of years we have in no particular order or attention to side played:

 

Hanifin-Faulk

Fleury-Pesce

Murphy-McKeown

 

It is not hard to envision that as one of the best defenses in the NHL in a few years. May need to fold a veteran in there, but the point is, that Pesce turning out as good as he seems to be, lets us focus almost all of our drafting and UFA work on forwards.

 

Rem, I suspect you're trying to be a bit cautious but I think you may be underselling Pesces potential when you say "very solid to good".  I know this may inspire the virtual equivalent of me getting pelted with rotten fruit on this board, but moving forward from a purely defensive perspective, if I had to chose between the two, I'd take Pesce over Justin Faulk.  :couch:  Which is not saying that I'd take Pesce over Faulk; I wouldn't. But I do think that Pesce stands a good chance of ending up better than Faulk defensively (and maybe sooner than later).  

 

And I have a wild hunch, based on almost nothing, that our third pair may eventually include one of the current Chex like Slavin or Carrick instead of McKeon.

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Rem, I suspect you're trying to be a bit cautious but I think you may be underselling Pesces potential when you say "very solid to good".  I know this may inspire the virtual equivalent of me getting pelted with rotten fruit on this board, but moving forward from a purely defensive perspective, if I had to chose between the two, I'd take Pesce over Justin Faulk.  :couch:  Which is not saying that I'd take Pesce over Faulk; I wouldn't. But I do think that Pesce stands a good chance of ending up better than Faulk defensively (and maybe sooner than later).  

 

And I have a wild hunch, based on almost nothing, that our third pair may eventually include one of the current Chex like Slavin or Carrick instead of McKeon.

Yeah I guess I want to see a few more games from Pesce, but I am loving what I see.

 

You know I'm not eager to join you behind your couch on Faulk's defense. Overall I've seen Faulk stick to guys like glue in the dzone then releive them of the puck. But lately I've also seen Faulk on the wrong side of the beaten like a rented mule analogy too. I think it is more a matter of all those minutes. But Pesce does really try to stick to not getting beaten defensively, which is why I pencil him in as our #3-4 guy.

 

I really think our other big, mobile dman, Fleury will arrive too. Sure he's not preternaturally gifted like Hanifin, but he is still a year younger than Pesce and he has the physical tools to be very good. The future is bright on the blue line.

 

I was thinking of Francis' pitch to E if he does want him to stay. "Look at the incredible defense we are going to have. Then add Lindholm and Skinner coming around, and you and Jordan and Rask down the  middle. Really, just give me a chance to draft and find a couple of elite wingers and we are there..."

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Obviously from my statements in the GDT's, I agree with the above sentiments regarding Pesce. He's big, has good range, skates well, plays with poise, makes smart decisions, is winning board battles, has jumped into the play at the right times, and has even showed a little physical edge. Tripp keeps saying he is "wirey strong", I think that is attributed to his strong balance.

Everything I read about him during the offseason was very positive, and his college team apparently suffered when he was out.

It's only been four games but I haven't been this impressed with a Canes rookie for some time. He has outplayed Hanifin (which is no slight to Hanifin who is two years younger), as Pesce is outplaying many players on the team.

He's come in and solidified the defense and they look more confident as a group. Hopefully he/they keep it going.

Along with Fleury, I have high hopes for Slavin as well down the line. Probably more so than McKeown and Carrick. Slavin has 6 assists in 10 games and leads the team at +8 (which is 6 better than the next best defenseman who is +2 in 2 games) in Charlotte. Carrick has 4 goals and three assists in 10 games but is -2. Hopefully they both work out as they are having good seasons so far in Charlotte.

Di Giuseppe didn't impress me when I saw him, but he has 10 points in 10 games so far this season. Ryan is also producing offense as he was brought in to do. Good to see.

Checkers are 6-4 so far this season, hopefully they can build some positive vibes and move towards a winning culture.

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