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The Positive Thread: Any Optimistic Nuggets of Positivity in the Gloom

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Good point about Slavin Kyrule. The exciting thing for me w/ Pesce is that I can easily project a top 4 w/ Murphy as the offensive specialist "5th", amoung the guys in the system or already on the team. Not even counting McKeown.

 

Now, GMRF might choose to trade a piece for offense, but really doesn't have to go looking for defense. Heck he can draft all forwards w/ at least our first 3 picks this year, and probably should.

 

If we assume, as I do, that Fleury will make the jump next year, and be really good the following year, we will have the top 5 nailed down:

 

Hanifin/Faulk/Pesce/Fleury/Murphy/ XXXXX . That is a backbone for years to come. XXXX could easily be Slavin, but finding a #6 dman is not hard, and teams win cups with that spot essentially unfilled.

 

I keep getting back to Staal (s). If we can work something out, where Eric says, "I want to stay here. I understand I need a paycut, I am willing to modify my NTC, and if managment wants at some point to give someone else the C, I'm fine with it." We really can build around both Staals. We need more forward wing talent, but that would really be all we need, especially if we sign Ward also.

 

We have two first rounders at this point, and there are a couple of trade possibilities.n While we are not UFA central, Francis has shown JR's ability to find some diamonds in the rough out there. If we could draft just one elite high talent winger, and find one diamond in the rough, Versteeg type pick up....

 

If we get talented wingers E. can move back to his beloved center and can get it done.

 

Just imagine an elite, skilled, high speed winger in place of Terry. Then imagine LIndholm getting to his level, and Skinner scoring again. Then add one more Versteeg type 50 point guy.

 

It just seems that if we do re-sign E, (and Ward) we are set in goal, on defense, and down the middle (Rask/Nash are solid 3rd/4th). All drafting and UFA and trades can be pointed at winger talent.

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If I jinx this kid, i'll never forgive myself.  So with the drafting of Hanifin, in addition to Fleury, Slavin, Pesce, Carrick, McKeown, the Hurricanes defensively seem set in the future.  But after 12 games and a terrible schedule, who's leading our team in +/-?

 

Ryan Murphy

 

This is the guy a lot of people either questioned his spot or completely wrote him off.  I thought his preseason was up and down, but man has he come in and provided a service this team has needed.  Even though I still think he plays it a little too cautious sometimes, he's been very consistent.  I said on another board that he's probably been our 2nd best dman.

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If I jinx this kid, i'll never forgive myself.  So with the drafting of Hanifin, in addition to Fleury, Slavin, Pesce, Carrick, McKeown, the Hurricanes defensively seem set in the future.  But after 12 games and a terrible schedule, who's leading our team in +/-?

 

Ryan Murphy

 

This is the guy a lot of people either questioned his spot or completely wrote him off.  I thought his preseason was up and down, but man has he come in and provided a service this team has needed.  Even though I still think he plays it a little too cautious sometimes, he's been very consistent.  I said on another board that he's probably been our 2nd best dman.

 

I think his +/- has as much to do with being paired against 3rd- and 4th-liners than it does anything else, but he has looked good for the most part.  I made a point to keep an eye on him for a few shifts last night (as best i could watching on television) and his positioning was solid and his passes were crisp.  I don't think he'll ever be top 4, but i think he's on pace to be a solid 3rd-pairing contributor.  And i don't mind the cautiousness if it keeps him honest.

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If I jinx this kid, i'll never forgive myself.  So with the drafting of Hanifin, in addition to Fleury, Slavin, Pesce, Carrick, McKeown, the Hurricanes defensively seem set in the future.  But after 12 games and a terrible schedule, who's leading our team in +/-?

 

Ryan Murphy

 

 

 

I hate this term but his "compete level" has been great.  He has mixed it up physically a lot more this season and actually pushed some much bigger guys than him off the puck.  

 

If he can just hold his own D-wise the skating/creativity upside is huge with this kid, and also his ability to bring the puck up ice through the neutral zone.

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We've closed out season series with 2 teams and we've won both of them. 

 

Now all we need to do is come back and win (or at least tie) the season series against the rest of the teams and we should be golden!  :P 

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This quote just made me feel better- Malkins interview after a game-

“Everything (is wrong). We’re not playing right, we’re not working hard,” he said. “I know it’s tough right now. I know we’re mad at each other. We’re not working."

Sound familiar??? How many seasons has JR been in Pittsburgh?

Hey caniacs hang in there...the times they are a changing!!! We do not hear this anymore from our locker room...

LETS GO CANES

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A quarter way through the season and Skinner's +-  is -1.  I thought he'd been looking a bit more responsible defensively, good to see that the numbers are reflecting that as well. 

 

And he seems like he might be on the verge of regaining his offensive form.  And he's still only 23 years old.  Maybe we shouldn't write him off after all . . .

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How's this for a positive nugget, Justin Faulk named 1 of 3 stars this week? Go Justin!! Should have added that NHL named him3rd star of week.

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Probably should put this in the Prospects thread, but it is also some positivity:

 

Checkers have called up Daniel Alshuller:

 

http://gocheckers.com/articles/1427-checkers-swap-altshuller-for-tirronen

 

While Nedeljkovic might be our flashiest goalie prospect, probalby our next best prospect is Alshuller. He's only 21 still, and has that now prototypical bigger 6'3" frame. High 3rd round pick 2012 (our #8 pick traded for J year). He's been up and down, but is looking really good this year:

 

From the Checker's website:

 

"The 21-year-old has been having a stellar sophomore campaign in the ECHL for the Florida Everblades. Altshuller has put up a 10-3-0 record in 14 appearances and leads the league in goals-against average (1.58), save percentage (.941) and shutouts (3). He was named ECHL Goaltender of the Month for November and has helped backstop the Everblades to the top of the Western Conference standings."

 

Given our current goalie situation, (including in Charlotte) having an especially promising prospect is a positive thing.
 

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Agree. Hopefully he can keep it going in Charlotte and knock on the NHL door soon.

 

Got me thinking of another positive. We've been doing a much better job drafting after the first round since 2009 (a bit of a bust year drafting, (though Doumalin is playing in Pittsburgh, ironically another decent second round pick), our first rounder Paradis, not so much)).

 

But since then:

 

2010: Faulk, second round

2011: Rask, second round

2012: McGinn and DiGuiseppe, second, Alshuller, third round, Slavin, fourth round

2013: Pesce, third round (did not have 2nd or 4th round picks)

2014: Nedeljkovic, second

2015: Obviously too soon to tell, but apparently Aho is playing very well..

 

If McGinn OR DiGuisseppe turn into productive NHL'ers, we will have had a very nice run fo second rounders. Nedeljkovich and AHO need more time to tell, but both have a lot of upside. That 2013 draft, with no second rounder, it well could have been Lindholm and then nothing, but instead: Pesce.

 

In fact, if you count Pesce since we didn't have a second rounder in 2013, and count Doumalin, since he was the pick and is playing regularly in the NHL, we have had a run of very good second round picks all the way back to 2009. Every year producing an NHL player.

 

If Nedeljkovich, one of McGinn/DiGuisseppe, and AHO make it? 7 staight years of second round hits.

 

Then I think of all the picks we will have this year. A lot of positives.

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Keep an eye on Nicolas Roy - 2015, 4th round, 96th overall.  Many in the know around the draft thought that could be a steal. Big, physical center in QMJHL.

 

Looking forward > to loading up on > forwards in June.

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Agree. Hopefully he can keep it going in Charlotte and knock on the NHL door soon.

 

Got me thinking of another positive. We've been doing a much better job drafting after the first round since 2009 (a bit of a bust year drafting, (though Doumalin is playing in Pittsburgh, ironically another decent second round pick), our first rounder Paradis, not so much)).

 

But since then:

 

2010: Faulk, second round

2011: Rask, second round

2012: McGinn and DiGuiseppe, second, Alshuller, third round, Slavin, fourth round

2013: Pesce, third round (did not have 2nd or 4th round picks)

2014: Nedeljkovic, second

2015: Obviously too soon to tell, but apparently Aho is playing very well..

 

If McGinn OR DiGuisseppe turn into productive NHL'ers, we will have had a very nice run fo second rounders. Nedeljkovich and AHO need more time to tell, but both have a lot of upside. That 2013 draft, with no second rounder, it well could have been Lindholm and then nothing, but instead: Pesce.

 

In fact, if you count Pesce since we didn't have a second rounder in 2013, and count Doumalin, since he was the pick and is playing regularly in the NHL, we have had a run of very good second round picks all the way back to 2009. Every year producing an NHL player.

 

If Nedeljkovich, one of McGinn/DiGuisseppe, and AHO make it? 7 staight years of second round hits.

 

Then I think of all the picks we will have this year. A lot of positives.

 

But here's the dilemma; if that does happen, most of those will be JRs picks.  And how would we process that given our overall highly negative feelings towards him?  I know, cognitive dissonance!  :P 

 

Just messing around, folks. :D    

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But here's the dilemma; if that does happen, most of those will be JRs picks.  And how would we process that given our overall highly negative feelings towards him?  I know, cognitive dissonance!  :P

 

Just messing around, folks. :D    

 

I think JR's biggest problem is lack of long term strategic vision. He was actually pretty good at the "here and now" for the most part. Take the Semin deal. The first, one year contract was actually a very smart deal, and for the most part it actually worked that first year. Ours is a market that prime UFA's just don't want to come to. Yet we really did need an elite winger and there was not one in the pipeline. Take a bold chance on Semin w/ a one year deal.

 

The problem was the follow on deal. Way too much money, way to much term. And hence JR's modus operani and major weakness. Ward's deal, both Staal's deals. Way too much money, term and NTC's. Fine up front, but terrible on the back end. This has been mentioned by others too, but I agree, JR mortaged the future way too often and way too badly. When that future finally came? Well we're living it.

 

He's made good picks (see above), good small-medium moves (the cup team, Jussi the first time, Sekera and Gerbe for "own goal McBain", Semin the first year, heck suckering Toronto to get Tlusty for "where is he now" Paradis. JR was good at filling gaps and finding good players out of favor. 

 

If JR were only allowed to find diamonds in the rough and get them in, but never allowed to make a deal longer than 2 years, things would have been different.

 

So, where's the positivity in this? Francis really seems to have the long term strategic vision that JR lacked. JR is in Pittsburgh and Francis is here.

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I was just using JR to poke fun at the fact that we seem to becoming a society where a high proportion of people see issues as black or white, all or none, with little patience for nuance, complexity, or contradictions. But this is the feel good thread and I'm thinking I shouldn't have even included my post above here. To make up for it, I'll post a feel good thought I think most of us can agree on:

 

JR is now in Pittsburgh instead of Raleigh. :)

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I think there are things to be positive about. The young dmen are playing well, and hopefully, will continue to improve. Rask is developing into a Bergeron type player. The fourth line is the best fourth line we have had since,either 05-06, or when Scott Walker was playing. GMRF seems committed to building through the draft, which is frustrating in the short term, but can really build a solid franchise long term. This is a bad season, but I believe these young guys are showing us the light at the end of the tunnel.

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the Canes probably will not make the playoffs this year.   But if the $$$ heavy contracts with NTC clauses can be unloaded the future is promising

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It's funny to me, watching the games on TV, how some other announcers preview The Hurricanes by saying they have a young defense so, look for a lot of turnovers and bad defensive plays.  The announcers who actually know anything about this team, know that the young defense is impressive.

 

At times, it seems like it's the veterans that cause the turnovers that cost the team a win.

 

I am amazed at all the young defensemen and how well they are playing.  I never thought it would happen this soon.  The big test will be the grind of a full season, to see how they handle that and if they can keep their level of play up.

 

My question is, and always has been with this team most years, now that they are finding some offensive success by buzzing into the scoring areas (slot, blue paint), why why why does it take 30 games for the team to realize this?  Why do other teams seem to start The Season on time, but our team has to fall out of playoff position before they realize that?

 

I'm not tough enough to be a hockey player.  I realize, no one wants to stand in front of the net and get the crap cross checked out of them.  But guys, you're millionaires.  That's what you're paid to do, if necessary, to score and win games.  And they are doing it, now.

 

Why weren't they doing it in October?

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Noah Hanifin.  I have to remind myself he's 18 years old.  Tremendously smooth skater, cool, smart.  It's going to be a pleasure watching his career in Carolina.

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Check out the GDT about the World Junior Tourney. Sebastian Aho, #2 in points for the entire tourney and Nedeljovich is the #1 goalie with a .954 save percentage. Both Hayden Fleury and Roland McKeown made team Canada's blueline.

 

This taken with Manwolf's point about Hanifin, and then Pesce and Slavin's play?

 

Personally I still say keep an eye on McGinn (a ppg guy in Charlotte now, he will be back), and DiGiuseppi now with 7 points in 13 games or .54 ppg. or 45 point pace for 82 games. Yes, it's only 13 games, but then, he's only played 13 games. One would think he'd just get better. Murphy is still down there, and could re-emerge, even if just to be trade bait.

 

There is some good players simmering in our farm system.

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