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Ryan Murphy - 2 years, $750k this year, $825 next year.

 

Looks like he might be our #6 this year and then left for the expansion draft.

 

EDIT: Though it still wouldn't hurt to have one more guy in case he gets hurt. It's going to be interested to see how Francis plays this.

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Ryan Murphy - 2 years, $750k this year, $825 next year.

Looks like he might be our #6 this year and then left for the expansion draft.

EDIT: Though it still wouldn't hurt to have one more guy in case he gets hurt. It's going to be interested to see how Francis plays this.

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Ryan Murphy - 2 years, $750k this year, $825 next year.

 

Looks like he might be our #6 this year and then left for the expansion draft.

 

EDIT: Though it still wouldn't hurt to have one more guy in case he gets hurt. It's going to be interested to see how Francis plays this.

 

I think this is Murphy's make-or-break year with this org. The deal incentivizes him to earn his NHL stripes. If he can do that, he's affordable enough to keep around, and also to be attractive to a trading partner.

 

Good deal for all involved, something we'd better get used to (thankfully), with RF at the negotiating table.

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I think Murphy gets the starts he needs to qualify for expansion exposure, after that, it depends on him. Unless Francis picks up another expansion eligible guy, we really can't trade Murphy, ironically, as it would force us to expose someone else we don't want to expose.

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As one of the early ones on the get rid of Eric Staal train I will say the shoe fits so I will put it on Murphy also.

 

He has NO redeeming qualities in todays NHL for the Hurricanes. He is a small not particularly fast "offensive" defenseman whos not very offensive either passing or scoring.

 

This organization under JR tried to sale him as the next great player for our organization and hes already had many more chances than he earned EXCEPT for his wasted high draft pick.

 

Haydn Fluery, and Roland McKeowan are now on the clock and should be protected if at all possible.  I am fine for Murph qualified for the expansion draft - JUST I HOPE RF keeps Fluery especially and McKeowan. 

 

My next sleeper pick - Josh Wesley.  He played for a bad Plymouth team 2 years ago so I wouldn't get to hung up on his stats.  He's smart and like his dad in that he doesn't take a shift off.  We will see but the kid is filling out physically also. 

 

This doesn't even bring into consideration our newest blueliners.  We are loaded for bare and I hardly see Ryan Murphy filling a role in the top 9-10 in a mere 12 months based on what I've seen from him.

 

 

 

 

 

I think Murphy gets the starts he needs to qualify for expansion exposure, after that, it depends on him. Unless Francis picks up another expansion eligible guy, we really can't trade Murphy, ironically, as it would force us to expose someone else we don't want to expose.

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As one of the early ones on the get rid of Eric Staal train I will say the shoe fits so I will put it on Murphy also.

 

He has NO redeeming qualities in todays NHL for the Hurricanes. He is a small not particularly fast "offensive" defenseman whos not very offensive either passing or scoring.

 

This organization under JR tried to sale him as the next great player for our organization and hes already had many more chances than he earned EXCEPT for his wasted high draft pick.

 

Haydn Fluery, and Roland McKeowan are now on the clock and should be protected if at all possible.  I am fine for Murph qualified for the expansion draft - JUST I HOPE RF keeps Fluery especially and McKeowan. 

 

 

I think Francis sees Murphy as on the cusp. The cusp of figuring out what it takes to play in the NHL OR missing the boat forever. I am also skeptical and agree that this organization is loaded (if not overloaded) with D prospects. Francis has said that Murphy did not previously train to the NHL level, but last year did. Most would say he arrived looking much better last year, and then, a la Skinner took a concussion. Look how Skinner finally responded after a long subprime stretches post concussion.

 

I do agree though that Murphy's survival in the NHL depends on bringing offense and creating points, and even if he showed flashes, he has not really done that.

 

On protecting Fleury and McKeown, they do not, by rule, have to be protected. Ironically, Murphy is most likely going to get at least 35 games (to hit 70 between last year and this) precisely because that then allows us to offer him up in the expansion draft thereby protecting Justin Faulk, currently the only other player eligible.

 

But I don't think that is a hugely bad deal. First, teams can easily win with marginal #6/7 Dmen, and assuming Murphy comes in like he did last year, he's at least that. Second, McKeown and Fleury can start the year and get say 35 AHL games in before coming up. Third, if Murphy ends up being a weak link, after 35 starts he can be press boxed and put on a shelf just to be offered up in the expansion draft. Finally, if Murphy suddenly breaks out, we can go get a journeyman d man to offer up in the expansion trade and reevaluate Murphy's place, and even if it's not here, he could be traded.

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This sure looks like the org preparing us for the possibility that Gauthier sticks this year--or at minimum is fast-tracked to make the roster next season.

 

It mentions him making it this year as a long shot. I am so pumped about how good this guy is going to be though, so I would never say never. He would have to really blow things away though, probably all the way through pre-season and earn the short try out, then actually produce during that time.

 

I would ink him in for next year though, as I would expect him to dominate in Juniors.

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The best thing about the Murphy signing is that it is done. He was the last of our RFA to be signed and dragging it out would of been a distraction. Now RF and staff can concentrate on ways to make this team better, at least I hope that is what they will be doing.

 

Murphy has to know that he has to take the next step this season. When we drafted him he was touted as having a good offensive upside and as a PP specialist. Time for him show it IMO. There are prospects knocking at the door!

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Someone has to be the sacrificial lamb and it looks to be Murphy.  The good thing for him is, he can work his keester off and prove himself and go to another NHL team, it's on him.  Competition is good.

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This sure looks like the org preparing us for the possibility that Gauthier sticks this year--or at minimum is fast-tracked to make the roster next season.

 

Looking forward to him.  I trust the coaches and RF to bring him in at the right time.  They know they rushed Lindy, they admit it openly.  So they know what can happen.

 

Haven't had a guy like him since Cole left, Ruutu sorta was, but really he'll be Cole.

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If Murphy "clicks" this year and proves he belongs in the NHL, GMRF can trade him for value and make a move to bring in another expansion draft eligible dman. If Murphy doesn't make strides to prove himself, he gets his games to qualify as expansion draft fodder, and then makes sandwiches in the presser until somebody gets hurt. If he stinks up the joint, then it isn't a big commitment.

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Yeah, I think the expansion draft got Murphy 2 years. I bet without that it would have been one year. We have to have him under contract next year for him to qualify.

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Interesting article over at TSN about net front presence. http://www.tsn.ca/the-value-of-a-forward-with-net-front-presence-1.526616

 

They looked at forwards with the highest rebound rates/ 60minutes over the past 4 seasons. They define rebounds as any instance in which a shot is taken just seconds after a preceding shot was attempted by the same team with no other intervening play-by-play event. 

 

I was surprised to see 2 Canes listed among the top 15 for both 5-on-5 and PP.  For even strength, Jordan Staal came in 7th and Eric Staal 9th.  On the PP, Skinner was 6th and J Staal 7th.  For Skinner that must be the result of his great hands.  I can remember several times last year where he won puck battles in the crease and scored or generated a good chance.    

 

Note that it doesn't measure screens or tipped pucks, which seem just as important as rebounds to me.

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Murphy is good enough to at least be hidden (as a worst case scenario) on the 3rd pairing for 35 games to make him expansion draft fodder. As a Kitchener Ranger, he displayed the ability to make it in the NHL. It's time to make it happen. Fish, or cut bait.

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I have been as down on Murphy recently as most, but I will say that the organization still thinks he can make it. But it is a CAN make it, not a "pretty much will make it". He has shown signs and flashes and as mentioned, and only really started training correctly last year, but he does have the potential. Will he arrive or will he Boychuk? We shall see.

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Yeah, I think the expansion draft got Murphy 2 years. I bet without that it would have been one year. We have to have him under contract next year for him to qualify.

 

I still have a sneaking suspicion that expansion contributed to Wiz being bought out (unless there are doubts about his recovery).  Even with signing Murphy, we need a 7th d-man, and our D is still ridiculously young and could most likely benefit from some additional leadership beyond Hainsey. Plus he plays the right side.  I've got to wonder if Wiz not being eligible as expansion bait led to RF opening up his slot for someone who would be.    :letssee:

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Interesting article over at TSN about net front presence. http://www.tsn.ca/the-value-of-a-forward-with-net-front-presence-1.526616

 

They looked at forwards with the highest rebound rates/ 60minutes over the past 4 seasons. They define rebounds as any instance in which a shot is taken just seconds after a preceding shot was attempted by the same team with no other intervening play-by-play event. 

 

I was surprised to see 2 Canes listed among the top 15 for both 5-on-5 and PP.  For even strength, Jordan Staal came in 7th and Eric Staal 9th.  On the PP, Skinner was 6th and J Staal 7th.  For Skinner that must be the result of his great hands.  I can remember several times last year where he won puck battles in the crease and scored or generated a good chance.    

 

Note that it doesn't measure screens or tipped pucks, which seem just as important as rebounds to me.

 

One of the key differences between Skinner getting 30 plus goals and Skinner getting 17 goals is net proximity. He got there much better last year, especially after December, and the goals came.

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One of the key differences between Skinner getting 30 plus goals and Skinner getting 17 goals is net proximity. He got there much better last year, especially after December, and the goals came.

 

Sure. What I was trying to get at is that I usually associate net front effectiveness mostly with banging (as in J Staal).  The difference I see with Skinner is that when he gets there he out duels the opposition for the puck using superior stickwork rather than just out muscling them.  That, combined with the steals he made on the forecheck, gave me a whole new appreciation for what good hands Skinner has.   

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Sure. What I was trying to get at is that I usually associate net front effectiveness mostly with banging (as in J Staal).  The difference I see with Skinner is that when he gets there he out duels the opposition for the puck using superior stickwork rather than just out muscling them.  That, combined with the steals he made on the forecheck, gave me a whole new appreciation for what good hands Skinner has.   

 

Skinner has magic hands. But alot of his goal scoring magic is close up magic that doesn't work nearly as well too far from the net. Two years ago he was too far out.

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Skinner has magic hands. But alot of his goal scoring magic is close up magic that doesn't work nearly as well too far from the net. Two years ago he was too far out.

This is why he can still come into his own as a playmaker. The trash collecting opportunities will always be there, and I think he learned a lot last year about when to pursue them. But with his hands and his accuracy, he can also set guys up. He took a big stride in that regard last year, and I expect to see a lot more of him on the half-wall and down low during the PP, drawing defenders and then dumping off to open guys on the far side or crashing the net.  

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Looks like to me they are just advertising a first round pick.  He may get a look but I'd be surprised if Gauthier doesn't head back to juniors.

Agree, but I like how the org is showcasing them. A big element of guys having belief in themselves is the org conveying its belief in them.

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 I expect to see a lot more of him on the half-wall and down low during the PP, drawing defenders and then dumping off to open guys on the far side or crashing the net.  

We haven't had anyone crashing the net for years,hopefully some of the new blood will provide that type of game.

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