Who should be the Canes new coach?

[Red_Storm]

This thread is not to debate whether Bill Peters should be fired, that discussion can continue elsewhere.  Hopefully, things get turned around for the Canes soon!  However, if trends continue from today (only 4 wins in 11 games?), it is not unreasonable to assume BP will be fired at some point.  So what then?  Who is even interested in coming to Carolina?  Who is available?  Do we target an experienced former NHL coach?  A former or current assistant?  Someone from the AHL, NCAA or other ranks?  An offensive minded coach?  A defensive specialist?  A motivator?  An old school hard liner or a ‘players’ coach?

 

I’ll throw a candidate out just for starters:  Jim Montgomery.  He has quickly become a premier NCAA coach compiling a 102-47-18 record and his Univ of Denver team is the defending NCAA National Champions.  He’s probably a better, more available candidate for off-season consideration and I believe he was one of the finalists for the Florida Panthers most recent head coaching vacancy.  I honestly don’t know a lot about him in terms of style and leadership, other than his impressive record, his several coaching awards, and watching a few U Denver games in the past couple Frozen Fours.

[gocanes0506]

Uggggh.

 

yep blame the coach for players being terrible at shooting a puck and a all of sudden defense who can’t.  

 

We dont have the money field a solid team but we are going fire a coach mid season?  C’mon. 

 

and the legitimacy of this post tanked as soon ‘I don’t know about his leadership but his record is impressive.’  We all can throw out names, it doesn’t mean they can fix the squad.

[bluedevil58]

Paul Maurice once he is fired for the Pegs.  3rd time is a charm.

[OBXer]

7 minutes ago, bluedevil58 said:

Paul Maurice once he is fired for the Pegs.  3rd time is a charm.

 

Now that is just pouring salt into an open wound

[sleekfeeder]

Maybe change the poll title?

 

-What do you think will happen next?

A.Stay the course, wouldn't be prudent. 1,000pts of light. 

B.Coaching staff heads roll (of some sort)

C.Trade Shake Up

[realmdrakkar]

1 hour ago, bluedevil58 said:

Paul Maurice once he is fired for the Pegs.  3rd time is a charm.

 

 

He'll get a job in Pittsburgh before he gets another job here.

[sleekfeeder]

Not saying we should be entertaining this necessarily, but it did get me thinking...ok if we do, who the heck is really out there that would be better?

 

http://www.tsn.ca/13-potential-nhl-head-coaching-candidates-1.901777

Edited November 3, 2017 by sleekfeeder

[hag65]

I'm as mad as hell and I'm not gonna take it anymore.

 

But I still need to actually see a better alternative before I jab HCBP with a pitchfork.

 

But I am as mad as hell and I'm not gonna take it anymore. 

[surfzone365]

Alain Vigneault is on the hot seat in NYR and I wouldn’t be surprised if the other shoe drops on him before long. However, not sure he would be a good fit here. He has had some talented Canucks teams with the Sedins and Rangers teams to work with.  With that said, I’m not totally

sold on BP being done here, but for the sake of this topic I believe AV will be available soon.

[Manwolf]

Dave Tippett

[bluedevil58]

If this team doesn't win against the Coyotes.  It's time for a change.

[top-shelf-1]

I think it should be FS58. Talk about bringing fun back to the boards!!

[AWACSooner]

1 hour ago, Manwolf said:

Dave Tippett

He'd be my first choice...but I'd also like to see Sutter.

[bluedevilcane]

Sleekfeeder, I vote for a trade shakeup first. But it’s time to do something. The schedule is heavier but not so brutal in November. If results don’t improve, RF has to at least consider a coaching change or staff shakeup (sorry Rod).

[top-shelf-1]

Guys, seriously. We're all of 11 games in, and played .500 hockey in October, most of it against great teams which had played more games. Cam and the D threw up a stinker the other night, pure and simple. You don't sh*t-can four years of work over one game. 

[bluedevil58]

22 minutes ago, top-shelf-1 said:

Guys, seriously. We're all of 11 games in, and played .500 hockey in October, most of it against great teams which had played more games. Cam and the D threw up a stinker the other night, pure and simple. You don't sh*t-can four years of work over one game. 

4 years of work and no results. 

[slapshot02]

15 hours ago, hag65 said:

I'm as mad as hell and I'm not gonna take it anymore.

 

But I still need to actually see a better alternative before I jab HCBP with a pitchfork.

 

But I am as mad as hell and I'm not gonna take it anymore. 

I wouldn't touch BP but there may be reasons to replace Rod. Sure he's a fan favorite but really what has he done from a coaching perspective? The PP has not worked under his tenure and has never looked so bad. Sorry Rod sometimes doing the same thing over and over again isn't a recipe for success.

[winger52]

24 minutes ago, top-shelf-1 said:

Guys, seriously. We're all of 11 games in, and played .500 hockey in October, most of it against great teams which had played more games. Cam and the D threw up a stinker the other night, pure and simple. You don't sh*t-can four years of work over one game. 

 

Not over one game . Francis has done a lot of work to bring in players who have great potential. It seems the coaching staff has brought them to the .500 level. I was expecting more, might get more, but the trend continues to be the same old stuff. Some flashes of talent, then thud. Try putting a streak together and I might rethink .

[realmdrakkar]

37 minutes ago, bluedevil58 said:

4 years of work and no results. 

 

 

You're giving it 20 games before passing judgement, right?

[bluedevil58]

52 minutes ago, realmdrakkar said:

 

 

You're giving it 20 games before passing judgement, right?

 20 games yes.  When I say change I think Brindy is the first to go if we can't trade for better scoring talent

[Red_Storm]

23 hours ago, sleekfeeder said:

Not saying we should be entertaining this necessarily, but it did get me thinking...ok if we do, who the heck is really out there that would be better?

http://www.tsn.ca/13-potential-nhl-head-coaching-candidates-1.901777

 

Nice article summarizing the available “inventory”...good find sleekfeeder! 

[AWACSooner]

Ya know?  As big a man-crush as I have on Rod, I am now thinking it's time for him to go be an assistant in Charlotte and maybe cut his chops down there.  I truly believe the guy can coach, but I think, like most of our draft prospects, he was rushed to the big leagues waaaaaaaaaay too fast.  

 

That being said, I can't totally fault him on the PP woes, as I seriously doubt he is telling the players to be intentionally out of position in the OZ time and time again.

 

...and when he does go somewhere else, look for our F/O numbers to drop significantly, as that is the one area of coaching that he has done really well at.

[LakeLivin]

23 minutes ago, AWACSooner said:

Ya know?  As big a man-crush as I have on Rod, I am now thinking it's time for him to go be an assistant in Charlotte and maybe cut his chops down there.  I truly believe the guy can coach, but I think, like most of our draft prospects, he was rushed to the big leagues waaaaaaaaaay too fast.  

 

That being said, I can't totally fault him on the PP woes, as I seriously doubt he is telling the players to be intentionally out of position in the OZ time and time again.

 

...and when he does go somewhere else, look for our F/O numbers to drop significantly, as that is the one area of coaching that he has done really well at.

That reminds me of something I've been meaning to bring up; seems like with the new emphasis on strict interpretation of the face off rules this season, the Canes advantage there has dropped quite a bit.  I wonder if the "technique" that Brindy has been teaching might have been neutralized a bit?

[bluedevil58]

I've remained calm.   The BP project is really starting toworry me.   It is and has been a failure.  That's 4 games now HE has costed us.  Time for a new HC.  I specifically stated that if this team got off to a rocky start we woukd need to consider a new HC and it has happened.  Let's see if the ship can get bsck on course.

Edited November 6, 2017 by bluedevil58

[bluedevilcane]

Top, you and I agree more often than not, but if we are seeing year to year progress, yes don’t throw away 4 years of work. But for 4 years, we have been among the lowest scoring teams in the league. Our power play has been woeful. We get off to terrible starts, then spend the rest of the year chasing with spurts of good wins followed by losing streaks, ending up about the same every year. And the roster has been transformed over these years. I’m pretty sure Peters’ first team included only Faulk, Jordan, Cam and Skinner, plus Lindholm as a rookie from the guys that are here now. At the least we should replace Rod with a bright offensive minded coach. But I’m ready to make a change at the top after Saturday.