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Stelios Matthews is benefiting from Patrick playing in Philadelphia.  He is above his .9 PPG pace from last year.  He has 13 goals and 14 assists in 20 games so far. Matthews is getting a full season as a number 1 center this season, had a partial season last year as a number 1.

 

Geekie has 20 points (6 & 14) in 19 games. 

 

De Jong has a -2 with 5 assists in 15 games. 20 PIM as well.

 

Bean has 16 points ( 3 & 13) in 16 games with a -5.

 

Elynuik has 11 G 16 assists in 20 games with a very good plus 10. Also has 24 PIM.

 

Helvig has a 2.58 GAA with a .916 sv % in 16 games.  Both numbers have improved from last year, so far.

 

If I find articles mentioning them, Ill drop.  Feel free to assist in that adventure.

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Thanks for the update gocanes! It is hard to keep track of these guys not in Charlotte.

 

This article mentions some of those guys as well as a couple of others: https://www.cbssports.com/nhl/news/hurricanes-prospect-corner-go-west-young-men/

 

I know the following are not in Juniors, but it still seemed like the place for this:

 

I've been hoping to see David Cotton (now sophomore at BC) break out after a really good Freshman year, but the team and he are not scoring though recently seem to be warming up.

 

Also, anyone know who Kometa Brno is? Our top prospect.....s team in Europe. It's Necas' team. He has 3 points in 3 games in regular league play, but his team just made the quarter finals in Europe's Champions League. Should be a good experience.

 

Also Jack Lafantaine, one of our goale prospects, a sophomore at Michigan, seems to be getting the inside track as their #1.

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Check out canescountry’s prospect corner this morning. A lot of good info.

 

Im still on board the Mattheos bandwagon!  I believe we got a steal in the third round.  He wasn’t given any limelight until Nolan Patrick left.  He has been a PPG player since NP went down to injury last year.  Now he is a 1.61 PPG player.  

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Thanks for the reference gocanes! Just shows how hard it can be to keep up with our prospects, and how hard it can be to project them when they're still so young. One reason why I mostly leave post first round picks from the most recent draft off my list initially.

 

Aside from a pretty cool name, Stelio Mattheos (sounds like a Greek action hero), Stelio was below my radar. The guy had a typical third round ppg production last year at .88 ppg. And it is not unusual for a guy to really turn that up in a post draft Junior year. But Selio has turned it WAY up. 1.61 points per game, not to far from double.  If a player has 1.61 ppg production in his draft year, he's typically a top 3 overall pick. What I would love to know (but couldn't find with a cursory search) is this: how does a big bump in point production in junior hockey in a player's first post draft year translate into NHL scoring?

 

One guy who also did that was Nicholas Roy. Roy also had the early pedigree thing going (at one point he was thought of as elite, but dropped back in his draft year). I don't know enough about Mattheos to know if he was ever thought of as future elite material.

 

Either way, just so good to see yet another non first round draft pick looking good.

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Just building off of that Canes Country article. A couple of interesting things.

 

First, Jeremy Helvig. Our goalie prospects tend to pop up and fall back and pop up and....but right now Jeremy Helvig is looking really good. Basically tied for best goalie in the OHL in save %. Goalies are so hard to predict and find, and can emerge from late rounds.

 

Second, Jake Bean. He looked a bit befuddled in camp and pre-season this year, but remains a very good D prospect. He's over a ppg from the back end and projected to be top pair for Team Canada. I think that the Hayden Fleury thing and the way Bean looked in camp suggests that D men need an AHL year. I could be wrong of course. But even if he does, there's not a huge rush on him, and in a couple of years this guy really could bring the O from the D.

 

Third, I love Necas. But I'd like to see him scoring a bit more. .42 ppg in an elite men's league is not bad, but not the elite we need. Still high on him of course. Just too much speed and wow.

 

Fourth, while Bean will get top pair for Canada, and Necas top line for the Czech's, don't forget Kouk who will be the Finn's 1C. Also our second rounder from last year (Luostaninen) will make the Finn team. Looks like his productivity has not been great this year. We've had a pretty good run with Finnish forwards in the second round. Like Aho and Kuok, many saw Luostarinen as a reach, especially as the 11th pick of second round. Can he keep the streak of good picks alive? Probably take a few years to know.

 

Lastly, just noting that Hudson Elyniuk is at 1.32 ppg. Big guy, showed some nice chops in Camp and Traverse City.

 

The pool is deep and just seems to keep getting deeper.

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Updates:

Gp G A TP PPG p/m

Mattheos- 45 31 32 63 1.4!  14

Elynuik- 45 22 37 59 1.31 21

Geekie 41 16 37 53 1.29 -6

Bean 30 7 24 31 1.03 -13:unsure: (has 4 points and -1 with new team in 5 games)

Carroll- 41 3 21 24 0.59 22!!!

De Jong 42 1 13 14 0.33 -4

 

Carroll going to be a 6th round gem?  This group will be fun to watch in Charlotte next year.  Minus Mattheos as he wont make the age requirement.  

 

Helvig 36 GP 2.55 .921%

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Awesome. Thanks for the update gocanes. At some point, I should probably re rank my list.

 

To me Mattheos bears watching because he's put up points last year too, and Elynuik because he's pretty fast and very huge. All good, yeah, not sure about Bean's -13, was his original team bad? Have bad goaltending? I still have to hold out hope for Bean, and liked what he did in the prospect's camp, but since then, it's been more mixed at best. Young D men can certainly find their NHL game later, and Bean still should, but I had hoped to see more at WJT. Anyway, a ppg for a D man is definitely in NHL territory, so we'll have to see what he looks like next season.

 

Carroll was mentioned a while ago on an XM NHL prospect show interviewing Tony McDonald. He would project as a very competent stay at home guy. Being a LHD, at the moment the list of guys in front of him is pretty long though.

 

And Helvig. Seems like it's been a long time since we've had a goalie anywhere in our system sporting a .921 save percentage. So that's nice.

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Elynuik and Geekie are both over-agers so I take their numbers with a grain of salt.  Elynuik’s +21 is good though. I think Mattheos is the best forward prospect that isn’t in Charlotte or named Necas.  Our NCAA prospects are putting up meh numbers, one exception may be Cotton.  I think Mattheos would be a Bean type and say “what a stupid rule that makes him go back to juniors.”

 

Bean’s team was bad and he was traded to a more competitive team for a playoff run. His knock across all leagues & tournaments is his not so good defensive skills.

 

I hope Carroll continues to climb for us. He and Bean will probably keep Samuelsson and Robertson from being re-signed in Charlotte.  LHD for charlotte would be Carrick, Bean, and Carroll.  I believe Bean should be approached and asked to play on the right side.  We lack depth on the side and he could move up the depth chart faster.  Give him a solid veteran like Samuelsson as a partner to allow Bean to figure it out.

 

De Jong will go to Florida more than likely.

 

I hope to see Booth and Helvig in Charlotte next season.  Let Ned go down to Florida.  His numbers aren’t solid and the other 2 are doing much better.   

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I'd still keep an eye on Elynuik due to size and breakaway speed. Sounds more and more like Bean is going to need some time, probably a year in Charlotte. That's not so bad though. It's really more normal, and worked very well for Fleury and some would probably argue Hanfin would have been better off with a year there too.

 

Cotton is an interesting name. He's a sophomore at BC, and a guy I liked as a long shot late rounder. He's a center and 6'3" and has skill. He had a good campaign last year given that he was a freshman, and I was hoping for a breakout this year. But he started very slow. HOWEVER is now coming on. His first 10 games he had zero goals and 2 assists. His last 10 games he has 4 goals and 9 asists. 1.3 ppg in big time D1 college hockey is very good.

 

Booth too. I tend to agree that Booth and/or Helvig might pass Ned at some point.

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2 hours ago, gocanes0506 said:

His knock across all leagues & tournaments is his not so good defensive skills.   

 

 

Just a heads-up, if he goes to Raleigh without having figured out the defensive side of the game, get ready for a steady stream of 'Jesus, Bean' coming from my direction every time he makes an ill-advised pinch or gets schooled by a speedy forward and ends up chasing the play.  I get that the game has changed and all but i still do and always will look to defensemen to provide defense first.  Scoring from a defenseman is icing but defensive ability is the cake.  To me at least.

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2 minutes ago, realmdrakkar said:

 

 

Just a heads-up, if he goes to Raleigh without having figured out the defensive side of the game, get ready for a steady stream of 'Jesus, Bean' coming from my direction every time he makes an ill-advised pinch or gets schooled by a speedy forward and ends up chasing the play.  I get that the game has changed and all but i still do and always will look to defensemen to provide defense first.  Scoring from a defenseman is icing but defensive ability is the cake.  To me at least.

I agree with this.  I hope Bean has the support system around him that allows him to cope with a long marinade in the AHL.  He will have to work very hard on positioning and angles.  He isnt going to push anyone out of the way so angles will be his game.  If he gets impatient and/or has a posse that is pushing him in the wrong direction, his development could go south.  I know the current Charlotte coach will sit dudes for poor play but he has to play Bean constantly.  He'll make mistakes but force Bean to forget and learn.  Just my take anyways.  I still ask Bean to go to the right side.  

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3.png Stelio Mattheos (RW/C) Brandon Wheat Kings WHL 66 41 45 86 1.30 75 4
2.  3.png Hudson Elynuik (C) Spokane Chiefs WHL 69 31 54 85 1.23 76 25
3.  3.png Morgan Geekie (C) Tri-City Americans WHL 65 29 51 80 1.23 32 0
4.  6.png Andrew Miller (C/RW) Charlotte Checkers AHL 53 15 36 51 0.96 20 -3
5.  9.png Valentin Zykov (LW/RW) Charlotte Checkers AHL 59 31 19 50 0.85 41 -15
6.  3.png Jake Bean (D) totals   54 11 35 46 0.85 22 -10
    Calgary Hitmen WHL 25 5 22 27 1.08 12 -12
    Tri-City Americans WHL 29 6 13 19 0.66 10 2
7.  1.png Lucas Wallmark (C) Charlotte Checkers AHL 38 13 30 43 1.13 12 10
8.  3.png Warren Foegele (LW) Charlotte Checkers AHL 62 25 16 41 0.66 28 17
9.  10.png Gregory Hofmann (C/LW) HC Lugano NLA 45 22 17 39 0.87 22 10
10.  6.png Andrew Poturalski (C) Charlotte Checkers AHL 64 17 21 38 0.59 20 -21
  .                  
11.  3.png Noah Carroll (D) Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds OHL 63 6 29 35 0.56 69 37
12.  3.png Trevor Carrick (D) Charlotte Checkers AHL 61 7 27 34 0.56 81 -10
13.  2.png Janne Kuokkanen (C/W) Charlotte Checkers AHL 48 7 25 32 0.67 14 13
14.  3.png Nicolas Roy (C/RW) Charlotte Checkers AHL 60 9 22 31 0.52 37 0
15.  2.png Aleksi Saarela (C/LW) Charlotte Checkers AHL 59 20 10 30 0.51 8 -3
16.  6.png David Cotton (C) Boston College NCAA 36 9 18 27 0.75 22 9
17.  3.png Clark Bishop (C) Charlotte Checkers AHL 62 7 20 27 0.44 30 11
18.  3.png Steven Lorentz (C) totals   54 9 16 25 0.46 26 -2
    Florida Everblades ECHL 51 9 16 25 0.49 26 0
    Charlotte Checkers AHL 3 0 0 0 0.00 0 -2
19.  3.png Brendan De Jong (D) Portland Winterhawks WHL 66 5 19 24 0.36 40 2
20.  9.png Sergei Tolchinsky (LW/RW) Charlotte Checkers AHL 38 6 16 22 0.58 20 2
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21.  6.png Patrick Brown (C/RW) Charlotte Checkers AHL 56 7 14 21 0.38 56 11
22.  3.png Roland McKeown (D) Charlotte Checkers AHL 59 6 15 21 0.36 30 33
23.  2.png Eetu Luostarinen (C) KalPa Liiga 55 6 14 20 0.36 58 -7
24.  3.png Greg McKegg (C) totals   35 8 11 19 0.54 12 10
    Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins AHL 28 5 7 12 0.43 10 10
    Charlotte Checkers AHL 7 3 4 7 1.00 2 0
25.  6.png Philip Samuelsson (D) Charlotte Checkers AHL 64 4 14 18 0.28 40 33
26.  3.png Brenden Kichton (D) Charlotte Checkers AHL 51 3 15 18 0.35 49 -8
27.  8.png Martin Necas (C/RW) HC Kometa Brno Czech 24 9 8 17 0.71 6 0
28.  3.png Julien Gauthier (RW) Charlotte Checkers AHL 53 12 4 16 0.30 20 -3
29.  3.png Tyler Ganly (D) totals   30 4 10 14 0.47 20 10
    Charlotte Checkers AHL 8 0 2 2 0.25 2 0
    Florida Everblades ECHL 21 4 8 12 0.57 18 9
    Greenville Swamp Rabbits ECHL 1 0 0 0 0.00 0 1
30.  6.png Jake Chelios (D) Charlotte Checkers AHL 41 4 10 14 0.34 41 -5
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31.  6.png Matt Filipe (LW) Northeastern Univ. NCAA 29 5 8 13 0.45 31 9
32.  3.png Phillip Di Giuseppe (LW/RW) Charlotte Checkers AHL 14 4 8 12 0.86 8 1
33.  6.png Luke Stevens (LW) Yale Univ. NCAA 30 6 5 11 0.37 12 1
34.  2.png Ville Räsänen (D) totals   41 1 8 9 0.22 14 -29
    Jukurit U20 Jr. A SM-liiga 28 0 6 6 0.21 14 -21
    RoKi Mestis 9 1 2 3 0.33 0 -6
    Jukurit Liiga 4 0 0 0 0.00 0 -2
35.  6.png Max Zimmer (LW) Univ. of Wisconsin NCAA 25 3 4 7 0.28 0 0
36.  6.png Luke Martin (D) Univ. of Michigan NCAA 37 1 6 7 0.19 20 14
37.  3.png Dennis Robertson (D) Charlotte Checkers AHL 36 1 4 5 0.14 40 2
38.  6.png Josh Wesley (D) totals   38 0 5 5 0.13 22 4
    Charlotte Checkers AHL 17 0 1 1 0.06 10 -1
    Florida Everblades ECHL 21 0 4 4 0.19 12 5
39.  3.png Spencer Smallman (RW) Florida Everblades ECHL 5 0 4 4 0.80 2 3
40.  3.png Keegan Kanzig (D) Florida Everblades ECHL 52 0 4 4 0.08 94 15
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Previous post brought to you by eliteprospects.com

 

Interesting notes:

 

Bean has found positive game over the last 10 with Tri-City.    2 G 6 A +7.  He is finally a + player for Tri-City. His scoring is well off the mark he had with Calgary. I assume he is in a different role as Tri-City is much better than Calgary.

 

If you scroll all the way to the bottom you see Smallman is finally playing after recovering from his long term injury.  He has 4 Assists in 5 games. He should be a solid addition to the Charlotte lineup next season.  Hopefully replacing Foegele's production. 

 

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The Juniors' playoffs are in full swing.  Elynuik and De Jong's teams are matched up against each other in the 1st round.

 

Mattheos- 2 Assists and a -3 in 2 games where BWKs have lost 2 Medicine 7-2 and 7-3.

Elynuik- 1 G, 1 A and a -1 in 2 games where Chiefs and Winterhawks have split

De Jong- 0 points and a -2 in 2 games where Chiefs and Winterhawks have split

Geekie- 4 Gs, 3 As :banana:and a +2 in 2 wins of 5-0 and 9-7 :blink: over the rockets

Bean- 0 Gs, 2 As and a +5 :yippee: in the same 2 games against the rockets

 

Our 2 OHL prospects:

Carroll- 0 Gs, 1 A and a +4 in 2 wins over the Spirit, one of those being 8-0.

Helvig- 3.53 GAA, .904 SV % in a 2 game split with North Bay.   

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2 hours ago, remkin said:

Great update gocanes. Geekie's name seems to keep popping out for the right reasons.

 

We'll see how Geekie does in the AHL next year.  He is an overager and Im not sure how much that factors into his scoring.  Has a good motor so far.

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To update our Junior prospects in the playoffs:

                    GP    G    A    PTS   +/-

Mattheos-  8       4    2      6        0      0-2 in the 2nd round, beat medicine hat 4-2

Elynuik       7      3     4      7       -1      lost in the 1st round in 7 games to De Jong's Portland team (only one eliminated so far)

Geekie        6     11   6      17    +9      Americans are killing it through the playoffs as the number 1 in their bracket. Swept Kelowna and is up 2-0 on Victoria, he has a 2.83 PPG so far!

Bean           6      1    5       6      +7     On the same Americans team

De Jong     9      0    0       0       0       Won in 7 against Spokane, split the 1st 2 games against Everett 

Carroll        7      0     1      1      +5      Swept Saginaw, down 1-2 against Owen Sound

 

Helvig         8    3.04  .909    5W, 2L, 1 OTL.  Won in 5 games against North Bay, Down 2-1 in the 2nd round

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another update:

 

                    GP    G    A    PTS   +/-

Mattheos-  10    6    6      12       3      down 3-1 to Lethbridge.  Put up 2 goals and 4 assists in the last 2 games.  Has a 62.9% FO wins in the playoffs.

Elynuik       7      3     4      7       -1      eliminated, no change  (dont re-enter the draft, big man)

Geekie        8     15   9     24    +15      Americans swept Victoria.  On to the 3rd round! Added 4 goals and 3 assists over the last 2 games.  Hig PPG average is 3 PPG!  Crazy!  59.87% FO wins

Bean           8      1    13     14    +15     On the same Americans team, added 8 assists, 8!, over the last 2 games.  Doubled his + rating as well.  3 assists, a +5 rating, and 1st star last game. 

De Jong     11    1    0       1       -1       Down 3-1 to Spokane.  Was the 2nd star for the last game. 

Carroll        8      0     1      1      +7      won game 4, series tied 2-2.  Carroll isnt putting up numbers but he is solid when on the ice.   

 

Helvig         10    2.75 .917    7W, 2L, 1 OTL.  last 2 games Helvig has improved his numbers with 2 wins and lowering his GAA.  Kingston is up 3-2.

 

we are going to have A BUNCH of youngins pushing for roster spots over the next couple of seasons.

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Helvig is young, but sure looks like the real deal so far. I've been following him for a couple of years now and am eager to see what he does in FL and CLT.

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1 hour ago, top-shelf-1 said:

Helvig is young, but sure looks like the real deal so far. I've been following him for a couple of years now and am eager to see what he does in FL and CLT.

Man could we use that.

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another update:  Down to 4 playoffs in the junior playoffs.  2 in WHL and 2 in OHL.

 

                    GP    G    A    PTS   +/-

Mattheos-  10    6    6      12       3      Shutout in game 5 and is eliminated from the playoffs. Was a -1 and won 15 0f 24 FOs in the last game (double taken of any other team mate).

Elynuik       7      3     4      7       -1      eliminated, no change  (dont re-enter the draft, big man)

Geekie        8     15   9     24    +15      no change, Americans play Everett starting on Friday.

Bean           8      1    13     14    +15     no change

De Jong     12    1    0       1       -4       Shutout in 5th game and eliminated.  Was a -3 and had 14 PIMs :unsure: that game.  

Carroll        11     2     1      3      +11     won the series in 7 gms.  Was the 2nd star of GM 7 with 2 goals and +3 (despite a 9-7 game).  Going to the semi-finals on the other side of the bracket from Helvig 

 

Helvig         11    2.61 .921   8W, 2L, 1 OTL.  Helvig has really changed his numbers over the last 3 straight wins.  His numbers look very good through 11 games.  Kingston on to the semi-finals

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Great update gocanes. A lot of good in there. It will be interesting to see if Geekie can keep it rolling, and Bean's numbers are also encouraging. I heard modestly good things about Carrol a little over a year ago from Tony McDonald and the guys at Prospect Radio on XM. A stay at home kind of guy generally.

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Not a good start Geekie and Bean with the Americans and Helvig with Kingston.

 

Geekie and Bean are down 2-1 to Everett and havent put up much stats.  Bean has added 2 assists and a -2 in 3 games. Geekie 1 G, 1 A and a -6 :huh: in the same 3 games.  A little off his 3 PPG rate.

 

Helvig has allowed 15 Goals in 3 games 7, 6, and 2, respectively.  Naturally his GAA average doesnt look as good.  He was the third star in the 3rd game when he allowed 2.  Hamilton is killing them right now.  

 

Carroll and SSM are chugging along with a 2-1 edge.  No points added and a -1 so far. 

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