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Taking Care of Canes Fans - In General

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The Topics of Open Letter to Tom Dundon and Taking Care of Season Ticket Members were already taken, and what I have to say would fit well into either of those threads, but I wanted this to stand out more and decided to start a new thread.

 

My hope is TD will actually see and read this post. It is how to make the fan experience better, rewarding Canea fans, and I think ultimately reward season ticket holders as well.

 

One of the worst things I hate about coming to the games here at PNC arena, are the amount of "fair weather" fans I'll call them (for lack of a better term), and fans of other teams.

 

I know there are a certain amount of fans from other teams who have moved into North Carolina and remain faithful to their "home" teams, but it seems there are a lot of fans who on most other nights would wear a Canes Jersey, except games where their "home" team comes to town and they put on the other jersey.

 

There is nothing worse than hearing the arena explode with applause just as loud or louder when the opposing team scores, than when the Canes score.

 

I can understand a good amount of Rangers, Pens, and Red Wing fans. Those teams are true "Hockey Town" teams, long winning teams, etc....

 

But just recently, we Canes fans have been shouted down by Islander fans and New Jersey Devil fans. I feel pretty confident that half the fans in attendance those nights didn't drive down for the game, or only show up just for the games played against the Islanders or Devils.

 

I think we reward fans who show up and wear Canes gear and cheer for the Canes.

 

I think when entering the PNC arena, anyone wearing a Canes jersey or t-shirt, orbother gear etc...should be given a 15% off voucher for concessions or purchases from The Eye.

 

Perhaps that would encourage more of these "fair weather" fans to wear their Canes gear and remain loyal to the Canes, even when the Pens or Rangers are in town.

 

I also think it was a bad idea to eliminate all of those free and discounted tickets that used to be given out. I've always been a season ticket holder, and it never offended me and made me angry to see others get freebies while I was paying full price.

 

I was always happy to see more Canes fans, to hear more cheering for our team and less from the others, and it would warm my heart to see the arena more full than not and having the majority of thr fans there wearing the Canes colors.

 

It was more loud, a better atmosphere, and when chants from opposing teams would start up, we had enough Canes fans in attendance to "drown them out".

 

Giving out a 15% discount voucher to those wearing Canes gear won't be a direct benefit for STM's as we already get a voucher for 15% off, but it would indirectly enhance the game experience I think by having the effect of having more folks there wearing and cheering for the Canes.

 

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Nice idea but instead of vouchers I think all they really have to do is put a competitive and winning team on the ice. 'Visiting' fans don't get loud or applaud when their team is losing and their numbers will go down when new/more Canes fans attend.

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I would totally support a separate entrance for all fans wearing other team's sweaters. Which is actually a wormhole into a another dimension from which they never return.

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I agree with the general sentiment here but I also don’t believe in gimmicks to “wooo” fans. You have to make the hardened and bold decision to become a fan. No rewards, no pats on the back, no “atta boy”. Raleigh (NC in general) is a transient place. Like Tampa, Dallas, Miami, we face the uphill battle of defending our arenas and that’s just the way it goes. I made the choice to shelf my Blackhawks jersey and apparel for Canes gear but I won’t/can’t expect the same from other  transplants. I have lived in the DC area since 2004 and Capitals threads have never touched my skin nor will it ever. So I find myself as the enemy screaming for the Canes at the Capital One Center and being seen as a traitor for not adopting the Caps. Friends and co-workers say I live and work in DC so I should support DC teams. No amount of discounts will cause me to hang up my Canes sweater for an Ovi shirt. Irony my friends...

 

i want to see PNC full of Canes fans like anyone else, and as we have exhausted this point in many other threads, winning will help... not discounts or free pizza.

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1. Canes STH

2. Canes fans who come to the arena once in a while

3. Canes fans who watch on TV

4. Fans of other teams who come only for their team's games.

5. Fans of other teams who show up in a jersey that belongs to a team that isn't playing.

6. Mossy lichen  that grows on the undersides of river stones

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99. Canes fans who wear another team's jersey when that team comes to Raleigh.

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If you recall, Nashville has an open policy to try to prevent Hawks fans from invading Bridgestone Arena. It was called “Keep the red out”. Tampa Bay had a similar policy during the 2015 Finals. Again, I’m all for encouraging the Home crowd. I am also annoyed by visiting obnoxious fans from other fan bases, especially those who go out of their way to show their true colors. A run in with Buffalo fans in 2016 while trying to enjoy a Canes game at PNC comes to my personal recollection.  I just hope we don’t stoop to Nashville’s level in that regard. That is actually embarrassing to have a ticket policy because you can’t fill your own barn with your own fans. 

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I get that many Canes fans are transplants. I get that many will have a primary allegiance to another team. But for a Cane's fan, the act of wearing the other team's jersey into the PNC and actively cheering against the Canes, I just don't get. How can you engage in an active act of aggression against your local team in their house and in their faces and those of your fellow Caniacs? Especially when too many enemy fans in the barn is already a particular sore spot of the team?

 

It's one thing to have a best friend and a second best friend, but it's another thing to be out with both of them and throw your arms around the best friend's shoulder and loudly taunt the second best friend.

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The subject of allegiance is a touchy one and I see valid points from both sides. Hometown allegiances die hard. Here’s my thing... plain and simple... if you’re going to go into anyone else’s house and pull for the away team, show some class and be cool. Show respect and don’t be a jackass. Sports is like any other business...it’s about money. Pens or Rangers fans dough ? is just as welcome at PNC as Canes fans’ hard earned bread from the administrative point of view. If you can’t behave yourself and be cool, you should be banned from all sports venues.

 

Ill add that it’s up to the organization as a whole to fill PNC with OUR red and black by putting a good product on the ice.

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38 minutes ago, surfzone365 said:

....embarrassing to have a ticket policy because you can’t fill your own barn with your own fans. 

Nailed it.

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I grew up a Bruins fan because my family is from there. I've lived here 50 years, but still root for the Bruins when it doesn't affect the Canes. I do not root for them when they come here either. I root for the Hurricanes!

 

I've been told by some of the visiting team fans that I've talked to that it is cheaper for them to travel to Raleigh, buy tickets here, spend the night here and go home the next day than to get tickets in their own barns. Not saying this is the case for all visiting team fans, just the ones I've had conversations with.

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16 minutes ago, hopper915 said:

I grew up a Bruins fan because my family is from there. I've lived here 50 years, but still root for the Bruins when it doesn't affect the Canes. I do not root for them when they come here either. I root for the Hurricanes!

 

I've been told by some of the visiting team fans that I've talked to that it is cheaper for them to travel to Raleigh, buy tickets here, spend the night here and go home the next day than to get tickets in their own barns. Not saying this is the case for all visiting team fans, just the ones I've had conversations with.

Agreed. Especially the Original 6 ticket prices are out of site expensive, those fanbases can take a week’s vacation to Raleigh for warmer weather and squeeze 2 or 3 hockey games in with our prices. It’s cheaper for me to travel to Raleigh for a Canes game than it is to go to a Caps game.

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My beef is not with the traveling fans. True, I long for the day that there are only a few of them in the PNC, but at least I get it. Sure it's a bit rude to come in and make our barn yours, but I guess that's what we get. My beef is the transplant fan who fully embraces the Canes, even buys season tickets, but when their main team comes into town they toss aside the Canes garb, don the enemy sweater and actively cheer against their own team in it's own building. Maybe it's because I've moved around a lot and adopted different teams over time, maybe it was being part of that magical run to the cup here, but I just don't get actively doing that. I guess if I'm still considering myself a primary Bruins fan, I just go to that game quietly. I don't know because I'm all in on the Canes, but it just seems like an act of aggression against your own team.

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18 minutes ago, remkin said:

My beef is not with the traveling fans. True, I long for the day that there are only a few of them in the PNC, but at least I get it. Sure it's a bit rude to come in and make our barn yours, but I guess that's what we get. My beef is the transplant fan who fully embraces the Canes, even buys season tickets, but when their main team comes into town they toss aside the Canes garb, don the enemy sweater and actively cheer against their own team in it's own building. Maybe it's because I've moved around a lot and adopted different teams over time, maybe it was being part of that magical run to the cup here, but I just don't get actively doing that. I guess if I'm still considering myself a primary Bruins fan, I just go to that game quietly. I don't know because I'm all in on the Canes, but it just seems like an act of aggression against your own team.

Fair, sound, and astute point. 

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17 minutes ago, coastal_caniac said:

Just Win and all this will take care of itself, but turncoats in your own fanbase just ain't right.

+1.

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1 hour ago, hopper915 said:

I've been told by some of the visiting team fans that I've talked to that it is cheaper for them to travel to Raleigh, buy tickets here, spend the night here and go home the next day than to get tickets in their own barns. Not saying this is the case for all visiting team fans, just the ones I've had conversations with.

I'm sure that's true, and I don't begrude the fans who come here, spend their money in the broader community (hotel, restaurants, etc.) specifically to support their team, then travel back. But to transplants who cheer for the Canes when their hometown team isn't playing but against the Canes when it is - even those who excuse themselves on grounds that they also financially support the team by being partial or full "members" -- well, AFAIC, they're members all right...

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I don't begrudge anyone cheering for their team, just do it respectfully. That includes Canes fans as well, the last 2 games I attended included my daughter commenting on a Canes fan showing his *** and being obnoxious, not her words. As for those transplants, I think it is possible to be a fan of 2 teams. But if you are a fan of a team you can't cheer against them. That leaves just enjoying hockey and hoping for a good well played game. I imagine that is what Brock's parents told Rem they do when he is saying against his brothers..

I just want the Canes to consistently put a game worth cheering for on the ice. Is that too much to ask?

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Are there any legal issues with putting the camera on a person wearing a visiting team's jersey and adding insulting captions, like they used to do with players in the penalty box?

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16 minutes ago, caniac-1-1 said:

Are there any legal issues with putting the camera on a person wearing a visiting team's jersey and adding insulting captions, like they used to do with players in the penalty box?

That’s going to be a lot of cameras and that cost is going to get passed right along to the loyal fans. Speaking of cost, does parking still cost the same as a game ticket?

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21 minutes ago, surfzone365 said:

That’s going to be a lot of cameras and that cost is going to get passed right along to the loyal fans. Speaking of cost, does parking still cost the same as a game ticket?

More or less.  Depends on where you park :)

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29 minutes ago, surfzone365 said:

That’s going to be a lot of cameras and that cost is going to get passed right along to the loyal fans. Speaking of cost, does parking still cost the same as a game ticket?

While attending one of the games this in February I saw information that there is "early bird" $10 parking

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37 minutes ago, surfzone365 said:

That’s going to be a lot of cameras and that cost is going to get passed right along to the loyal fans. Speaking of cost, does parking still cost the same as a game ticket?

 

Unless the videos during stopped play and intermission are created by some astonishingly quick 3D animators, they have cameras.

 

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36 minutes ago, surfzone365 said:

That’s going to be a lot of cameras

I think you misunderstood caniac's idea. Just a random shot, as done with the kiss cam or any of the other fan-featuring video interludes, just targeting people in other-than-Canes gear, with a caption (like maybe, "Wrong barn, cowpoke!"). 

 

Or, you were being sarcastic. :shifty:

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1 minute ago, top-shelf-1 said:

I think you misunderstood caniac's idea. Just a random shot, as done with the kiss cam or any of the other fan-featuring video interludes, just targeting people in other-than-Canes gear, with a caption (like maybe, "Wrong barn, cowpoke!"). 

 

Or, you were being sarcastic. :shifty:

I have no idea what sarcasm is ... ?

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