Canesfanforever Report post Posted June 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, OBXer said: How about we throw a sweater to the rook. Tell him to take a look at the number on the back and then tell him to make that number famous. I understand where you are coming from but some players tend to embrace the number kinda like ovi , crosby , so on and so on , it's a part of them . maybe you might not understand this but it plays a huge aspect as to who they are . you strip that away from a player are they likely to perform at their best ? sometimes not . it's a psychological thing . you wouldn't say that to Gordie Howe , Mario Lemieux or Wayne Gretzky for the teams they played for or better yet to Ron Francis when he came back to play for the canes back in the late 90's or Rod Brind'Amour in the early 2000's now would you ? The respect has to be established for a player that shows promising talent . player moral is very important to a team and to the player themselves . just some food for thought . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OBXer Report post Posted June 4, 2018 15 minutes ago, Canesfanforever said: you wouldn't say that to Gordie Howe , Mario Lemieux or Wayne Gretzky for the teams they played for Howe - Quote "Many people may not know that my first number with the Red Wings was No. 17 until early into my first season. The No. 9 became available and it was offered to me. We travelled by train back then, and guys with higher numbers got the top bunk on the sleeper car. No. 9 meant I got a lower berth on the train, which was much nicer than crawling into the top bunk." Lemieux - Quote It was inevitable that Lemieux would be compared with Wayne Gretzky, the greatest player of his day. Lemieux chose to wear number 66, a modest reference to Gretzky's 99. Gretzky - Quote It was with the Greyhounds that Gretzky first wore the number 99 on his jersey. He originally wanted to wear number 9—for his hockey hero Gordie Howe—but it was already being worn by teammate Brian Gualazzi. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
top-shelf-1 Report post Posted June 4, 2018 Numbers are meaningless to everybody but fans. Any pro who is psychologically fragile enough to let the number on his back affect his play is one I don't want on my roster. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canesfanforever Report post Posted June 4, 2018 (edited) 30 minutes ago, top-shelf-1 said: Numbers are meaningless to everybody but fans. Any pro who is psychologically fragile enough to let the number on his back affect his play is one I don't want on my roster. then you would be giving up a lot of talent that takes pride in the number they wear . it's symbolizes something special for them . i wouldn't say they would be " fragile enough to let the number on their back affect their play " so much , it might hinder it a tiny bit , but any owner would want to most out of your players and not to hinder them in any way . For example Connor Mcdavid wears number 97 because 1997 was the year he was born and he liked the last two digits of that year so he wore them . so are you saying you would be willing to hinder connor even if it was by a tiny smudge ? Edited June 4, 2018 by Canesfanforever Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Whaler1 Report post Posted June 4, 2018 I'm glad McDavid was able to get his number 97. I would hate to see his talent wasted having to wear #59 and ending up as successful as Chad LaRose. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KJUNKANE Report post Posted June 4, 2018 1 hour ago, top-shelf-1 said: Numbers are meaningless to everybody but fans. Any pro who is psychologically fragile enough to let the number on his back affect his play is one I don't want on my roster. I totally agree with you and many others who've posted on this inane subject. While numbers may have significance to a player, if that is a psychologic barrier to play on the ice, that psyche is too fragile to be successful in the long run. I'd just be curious if you polled 100 players and asked if the number they wore affected their play, how many would affirm it did? I'll be glad when the draft gets closer so we can stop talking of this foolishness. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canesfanforever Report post Posted June 4, 2018 11 minutes ago, KJUNKANE said: I totally agree with you and many others who've posted on this inane subject. While numbers may have significance to a player, if that is a psychologic barrier to play on the ice, that psyche is too fragile to be successful in the long run. I'd just be curious if you polled 100 players and asked if the number they wore affected their play, how many would affirm it did? I'll be glad when the draft gets closer so we can stop talking of this foolishness. it might be foolish to some but i know it does play a role in their persona . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
top-shelf-1 Report post Posted June 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, Canesfanforever said: it might be foolish to some but i know it does play a role in their persona . Spoken like someone who has never played any. Sport. At. All. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
top-shelf-1 Report post Posted June 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Canesfanforever said: but any owner would want to most out of your players and not to hinder them in any way . If, as an owner, I found myself losing sleep over whether a player's number would affect his play, I would have to hope that I also immediately recognize that my organization deserves a better owner than myself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canesfanforever Report post Posted June 4, 2018 46 minutes ago, top-shelf-1 said: Spoken like someone who has never played any. Sport. At. All. i played hockey back in the mid 90's . but please , go on assuming things without knowledge . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
top-shelf-1 Report post Posted June 4, 2018 12 minutes ago, Canesfanforever said: i played hockey back in the mid 90's . but please , go on assuming things without knowledge . Okay. Your number was important to you, and you're projecting that onto people with far more talent who make millions of dollars and wouldn't care if they had a picture of Marvin the Martian on their backs. Any other requests?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OBXer Report post Posted June 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, top-shelf-1 said: Any other requests?? Keep it civil please Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canesfanforever Report post Posted June 4, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, top-shelf-1 said: Okay. Your number was important to you, and you're projecting that onto people with far more talent who make millions of dollars and wouldn't care if they had a picture of Marvin the Martian on their backs. Any other requests?? im not projecting anything when it is a fact , to you it's nothing , but to some players it's everything in what represents them just like the last name on their back . what im suggesting is to not write it off because if so and so player wore the number of their choice within given reason , they could maybe put more effort into what ever they did , there are plenty of books on the psychology of sports that agree with me on this , dont just take my word on it , hear what others have to say too that know a lot more than i do on what these psychologist have to say on the subject . all im for is that we should not run into a hang nail , when we dont have to . Edited June 4, 2018 by Canesfanforever Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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top-shelf-1 Report post Posted June 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, Canesfanforever said: im not projecting anything when it is a fact , to you it's nothing , but to some players it's everything in what represents them just like the last name on their back . what im suggesting is to not write it off because if so and so player wore the number of their choice within given reason , they could maybe put more effort into what ever they did , there are plenty of books on the psychology of sports that agree with me on this , dont just take my word on it , hear what others have to say too that know a lot more than i do on what these psychologist have to say on the subject . all im for is that we should not run into a hang nail , when we dont have to . Please cite these psychologists' writings. Then (assuming they exist) ask them whether being that concerned about one's number - to the point that it affects their play enough to make a damned bit of difference - isn't also indicative of psychological fragility. Hence, my originally-stated aversion to having them on my roster. The importance of confidence to success in any sport is hard to overstate. If the number on his back is important enough that it could affect his confidence and I'm fool enough to sign him, I deserve exactly what I'll get: bat *edit* craziness in my dressing room. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cc Report post Posted June 4, 2018 Basing anything on a number seems a little shallow to me. And THATS a FACT....... to me. LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
top-shelf-1 Report post Posted June 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, super_dave_1 said: So, you realize, this makes shutting up out of the question. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wxray1 Report post Posted June 4, 2018 "He Hate Me" was never the same when he went to Carolina (Panthers) and became "Smart." 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OBXer Report post Posted June 4, 2018 2018 Carolina Hurricanes Draft Party INFORMATION Turning the hypothetical into the reality 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coastal_caniac Report post Posted June 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, top-shelf-1 said: So, you realize, this makes shutting up out of the question. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hag65 Report post Posted June 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, wxray1 said: "He Hate Me" was never the same when he went to Carolina (Panthers) and became "Smart." true. But World B. Free still was at the top of his game for years when he changed his name to World. but he didn't changE his Uni number so it probablY doesn't apply. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sleekfeeder Report post Posted June 4, 2018 I think we should defer to Al Bundy on the subject, who once threw for 4 touchdowns in a single game for Polk High. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LakeLivin Report post Posted June 4, 2018 4 hours ago, hag65 said: true. But World B. Free still was at the top of his game for years when he changed his name to World. but he didn't changE his Uni number so it probablY doesn't apply. One is too small a sample size. How did Metta World Peace do after he changed his name? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
realmdrakkar Report post Posted June 4, 2018 I have absolutely no clue what you guys are talking about. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wxray1 Report post Posted June 4, 2018 1 hour ago, realmdrakkar said: I have absolutely no clue what you guys are talking about. https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/gallery/xfl-best-nicknames-from-the-xtreme-football-league-documentary-ranked-111116 XFL. Yes, this really happened. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites