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Only problem i have with Ryan is that, IMO, he was put in a larger role than he should have.  Number the lines however you want to, but for the majority of the season he was attached at the hip to Jeff Freaking Skinner.  We all have our own opinions and none of us know how things would have gone otherwise, but i truly believe that with another center, Skinner would not have had the down-season he had this year.  And meanwhile i think the only reason Ryan pushed 40 points is that he was with Skinner, which inflated his numbers a small degree.  As a 4th-line forward, penalty killer, and faceoff specialist, Ryan gave the team pretty much all it could ask for.  He just didn't have the chops to be a scoring line center, to the Canes' detriment because that's how he was used (wow, a Hurricane forward being used is a larger role than he ever warranted - when has that ever happened?).  Many teams can use a Derek Ryan.  We can use a Derek Ryan.  Just not as a scoring-line center.

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7 minutes ago, realmdrakkar said:

with another center, Skinner would not have had the down-season he had this year

I would expand on this and say this is something we STILL don't have and need. Aho may be that, but I don't think Skinner has shown any chemistry with him or TT, nor do I think the plan is to put Skinner with those two. So what's the plan next season? Play him with a rookie? Staal again? Either get him one or trade him. Put up or shut up, or else I believe we face the same quandary next season, and see the same Skinner.

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PDG signing is just for a pawn to add as a sweetener in a trade instead of giving up younger talent. Add him in on a Faulk deal. Derek Ryan..... see ya. Full steam ahead for Hutton please.

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38 minutes ago, cc said:

 

 

Nothing surprising in there.  That 'Even Strength Save Percentage' chart certainly brings to mind a certain stat that not everyone takes seriously, and as such i expect the people who take this writeup seriously vs those who don't will be pretty much the same people who take that stat seriously vs those who don't.  For my own part, i see one the same as the other - neither one tells the whole story on its own and both have to do with everyone on the ice at a given time and not just one guy, but when one guy is so consistently on the wrong side of the curve, it tells me there's more going on than 'wow, what an unlucky guy to always be on the ice when the other team scores'.

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11 minutes ago, realmdrakkar said:

That 'Even Strength Save Percentage' chart certainly brings to mind a certain stat that not everyone takes seriously, and as such i expect the people who take this writeup seriously vs those who don't will be pretty much the same people who take that stat seriously vs those who don't. 

 

It did nothing to change my mind on +/- but the save percentage stat on its own made me think. The writer left the final conclusion a bit clouded but for me it reinforced that his D can be lacking. Teams will still take a chance thinking a different team, a different D mate and perhaps a more specialized role and less minutes will make a difference. Right shot O minded D men are still much coveted and I'm sure another team will take the leap of faith.

 

I think Faulk is a goner but if he stays we might want to think about less minutes and a more specialized role for him.

 

 

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Just now, OBXer said:

 

I think Faulk is a goner but if he stays we might want to think about less minutes and a more specialized role for him.

 

 

 

Firing slapshots wide or over the net on the PP?  :sarcasm:

 

 

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1 minute ago, hag65 said:

 

Firing slapshots wide or over the net on the PP?  :sarcasm:

 

 

 

At least he gets it toward the net.:rofl:

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1 hour ago, OBXer said:

I think Faulk is a goner but if he stays we might want to think about less minutes and a more specialized role for him.

 

 

I could almost go along with that.  Protected minutes, where he isn't really counted on for defense.  Personally i still think he'd be better suited as a RW anyway.  As has been said numerous times before, he has a howitzer but can't defend his way out of a paper bag.  Put Slavin and Pesce behind him and i'd be quite content to watch him and Skinner go rogue together up there.  Never happen, but it would actually be quite fun to watch, i think.  Just please don't ever again put him in the position to be the last guy between a speedy forward and Scott Darling.

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5 hours ago, coastal_caniac said:

If Derek Ryan spent less time picking himself up after getting knocked down he might have a chance at more points.  Not a fan.

He is good for a specific role: Winning key faceoffs in the D zone. He was also ok on the PK. Should not be anywhere in the vicinity of a PP unit, or expected to keep up 5 v 5 with top players, whether on his own team or the opposition.

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For goalie, I'm surprised no one has mentioned Craig Anderson.  He's as good as anyone else out there and has lots of starting experience.  Age is a risk, but pickings are slim.  He's requested a trade out of OTT and I suspect can be had for future considerations with OTT retaining salary.

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1 hour ago, top-shelf-1 said:

He is good for a specific role: Winning key faceoffs in the D zone. He was also ok on the PK. Should not be anywhere in the vicinity of a PP unit, or expected to keep up 5 v 5 with top players, whether on his own team or the opposition.

 

Point taken.  I don't want to come across as a Ryan basher after he's gone (assumed).  Still, I don't think he was a good fit here being hog-tied to Skinner.  He got knocked all around trying to play Peters grinder game. He did get up well though.  Frankly, I'm surprised he put up 38 points.  Good luck to him.

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 Still have to think with the no trade clause kicking in, and picking up Hamilton and with Pecse also a RH shot that we just have to be planning on taking the best offer on Faulk. Hope GMs don’t read that article cc posted.

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39 minutes ago, remkin said:

 Still have to think with the no trade clause kicking in, and picking up Hamilton and with Pecse also a RH shot that we just have to be planning on taking the best offer on Faulk. Hope GMs don’t read that article cc posted.

GM's don't need to read it. They already know. Faulk is not as valuable as we'd like to think, and my guess is that DW figured that out as he spoke on the phone with them over the past couple of weeks. The NTC only makes moving him harder, because the receiving team is subject to it. 

 

Jim Rutherford: The gift that keeps on making you bend over and grab your ankles...

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21 minutes ago, top-shelf-1 said:

GM's don't need to read it. They already know. Faulk is not as valuable as we'd like to think, and my guess is that DW figured that out as he spoke on the phone with them over the past couple of weeks. The NTC only makes moving him harder, because the receiving team is subject to it. 

 

Jim Rutherford: The gift that keeps on making you bend over and grab your ankles...

 

Just read an article that Rutherford should be considered for the Hall as a Builder. I was laughing so hard, milk shot out my nose.

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11 minutes ago, winger52 said:

 

Just read an article that Rutherford should be considered for the Hall as a Builder. I was laughing so hard, milk shot out my nose.

We are all adults here, you can admit it wasn't milk...

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I'm convinced that Faulk is gone before his NTC takes effect.  I'm really thinking it will be to Edmonton.  They need a RD that can shoot on the PP.  He also has a history with Sekera.  The only question would be the return.  A LD and/or Puljujarvi seems to make sense.  Our forward lines are projected to be full depending on other moves that might happen so you would think a lesser forward would also be going the other way.

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21 minutes ago, winger52 said:

 

Just read an article that Rutherford should be considered for the Hall as a Builder. I was laughing so hard, milk shot out my nose.

 

Three cups with two different teams, it's a lock.

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11 hours ago, cclifford10 said:

Three cups with two different teams, it's a lock.

Sadly, the NHL would have probably put him in just for being the first keeper to decorate his mask. And I use that term - keeper - very loosely.

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I am hopeful that we're shopping Skins and Faulk as a package for a #1 keeper (and more), to a team on the rebound with a #1 whose contract they are ready to unload. Read: Colorado. They just acquired Grubauer, Bernier and Hammond are still in the stable, and Varly has just a year left on his deal. Skinner might waive to play with Landeskog again, and moving Varly would make the numbers a wash.

 

Regardless, it would seem the Avs have to move at least one keeper.

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I just read that when Fauks NT kicks in a few days from now it allows him to pick 15 teams he could be traded to. Not that restrictive. Still it might be coincidental but Waddells time table to solve our goalie woes coincides with Faulks NT going into effect.

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