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Making the metro a little weaker:

 

In addition to the Dubinsky and JVR injuries, Matt Murray has a concussion.  Not sure of the timeline yet.  He will be out for a little while.

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21 hours ago, top-shelf-1 said:

I was referring to Jordan, not Eric.

 

And I agree, Aho needs to get paid, toot freakin' sweet. The fact that it hasn't happened is what I'm worried about.

 

I can imagine Dundon saying, "Sebastian, I can't have you making more in your fourth season than Jordan is in his 10th [or whatever he's up to]," and leaving it there. I can even imagine him invoking Rask, to argue that $6 million is too much in the first year of his first negotiated (non-ELC) deal.

 

My hope is that my concerns are completely unfounded, and that the people around TD can convince him of the rarity of Aho's talent. Though I shudder to think that he'd try to save a few million on the front end, at the same time, all of his public comments indicate (to me) that he might.

 

If it were me negotiating, I'd go $6 million for three years, 7 for 2 and 8 through the end of the deal, with a limited NTC after year three. The fact that nothing's gotten done yet, a couple months after negotiations began, has me concerned that TD either lowballed him and/or already ruled out an NTC of any kind. Either would likely cause Aho's agent to balk.  

 

One Staal too many! 

 

I agree reed with everything you said. They said Aho was our only untouchable player this summer. They need to get him signed. The de Hahn contract suggested they are willing to pay for talent. They need to get Aho signed and then move on to Teravainen.

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1 hour ago, bluedevilcane said:

One Staal too many! 

 

I agree reed with everything you said. They said Aho was our only untouchable player this summer. They need to get him signed. The de Hahn contract suggested they are willing to pay for talent. They need to get Aho signed and then move on to Teravainen.

Agree. My hope is that they're trying to do both and announce them together.

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11 hours ago, gocanes0506 said:

I feel like the team is one forward away from being really good.  We need some talent with Necas.

 

I understand its a small sample size but if Z and/or McGinn could get going that would be good. Z looks like a PP specialist and McGinn a 4th liner at this moment.

 

PS not complaining about our offensive output so far.

Is Nylander still home watching TV?

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43 minutes ago, slapshot02 said:

Is Nylander still home watching TV?

If he's watching our games he might start pushing for a trade...here.

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6 minutes ago, remkin said:

If he's watching our games he might start pushing for a trade...here.

I don’t think he’s worth 8+ million he is asking.

 

if he is willing to take 7 here because of the US dollar and cheaper cost of living, then cool

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11 hours ago, remkin said:

This was very recent. I think yesterday, but might have been the day before.

 

I can't say he was sending out signals, but it also sounded like more than the "we're always open to improving the team" boilerplate nonsense.

 

I don't know if anyone else heard it, but I recall it being relatively unprompted too. It was something like, "The Canes made some interesting offseason moves, tell us about those". To which I thought he said, "Yes, and they may not be done yet either."

 

May be nothing, but I think we want to make one more significant move if we can.

rem, driving home listening to John Forslund tonight(technically last night as right now it's 1:37 am), he again, I thought, made another reference to "bringing in someone from THE OUTSIDE? This vaguely was in reference to another C. Am wondering whats brewing, and am guessing that, now that a more meaty part of schedule, and on the road for next 3, it now is getting to critical focus on how we play against stiffer competition? From my viewpoint, our schedule is ideal. 1st we had extended preseason where large numbers competed for the 12 forward positions, then we've tested those against lesser skilled teams and seen the evolving weaknesses, now, ON THE ROAD and against teams expected to be in the hunt in postseason, we again are at a point of weeding out problems particularly at center, or more correctly, manning center appropriately to win against stiffer competition? So, the whole thing is just building, building, building. We may yet see a significant trade?

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Interesting Stats through 4:

 

Aho's 2 goals

Aho has a 59.18 FO Win %

Aho is on pace 123 points

Jordan's 3 goals

Martinook and Ferland's 4 goals

5 Canes have a Shot percentage of 20-28

Not a lot of offense from the defenders: Slavin has 3 assists, Dougie & Faulk 2, de Haan, 1 assist, Pesce has the lone goal, TVR & Fleury have no points

3 players at a 100 point pace, 4 at 80, and 2 at 60.

5 at +5 players so far, worse is 1 at -3

PP% 10.  ewwww

PK% 71.43  ewwwwww

 

 

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At least on the PP, it's interesting to see Ferland's thought process he knows what he wants and he would be setting up great plays if our guys could read a step ahead of what Ferland wants to do. If he calls for the puck he has his next pass already in his head, unfortunately we need some gelling for the next guy to understand what he's seeing.

 

He's dished 2 pucks to wide open no one on either team being there ice, so either it's a bad turn over or we need to find a way to get a guy there.

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If we had our special teams in order, we'd have won 6-1 last night. The good news is that there is nowhere to go but up. Our PK and PP index to 81.4, last year the worst team in the league was the Oilers at 91.5. We will get better at this. Both because teams always do, and because our team is not only young, but full of new guys. We will have to though, because as games tighten up 5 on 5 in general, like they always do after the first month or so, these goals will be more important than they are now. 

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8 hours ago, KJUNKANE said:

rem, driving home listening to John Forslund tonight(technically last night as right now it's 1:37 am), he again, I thought, made another reference to "bringing in someone from THE OUTSIDE? This vaguely was in reference to another C. .....We may yet see a significant trade?

 

Interesting. It seems pretty apparent that we could really use another center. Aho is doing well overall, but is still learning the 1C. TT was sort of blunt in his between periods interview. He was asked how Aho was doing at center, and he said, "OK. We both can do better." And Wallmark is starting to show his stuff as "4C". Playing with Svech helps. Despite some struggles those two are at least holding their own, and Aho is scoring. But so far Necas seems in over his head at center. He is a 19 yo rookie, so long term I'm not worried, but this  year?

 

I think we might look to a center for the third line. We've been round and round and round on this, it is extremely rare for a true 1C to be available. But a solid 3C could move Necas to the wing to learn NHL center in stages. Also provide some depth. If one of our centers goes down now we are really stretching.

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Not sure if everyone's noticed but scoring is up crazy high across the league, prompting the question if the chest protector adjustments did it. I was reading goalies were getting bruises near the shoulder but now Elliot is saying he's taking bruises on the arms. Wonder if they'll have to revert?

 https://www.bardown.com/one-nhl-goalie-pointed-out-the-painful-downside-to-the-new-goalie-pad-regulations-1.1189083

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8 hours ago, KJUNKANE said:

 Am wondering whats brewing, and am guessing that, now that a more meaty part of schedule, and on the road for next 3, it now is getting to critical focus on how we play against stiffer competition? From my viewpoint, our schedule is ideal. 1st we had extended preseason where large numbers competed for the 12 forward positions, then we've tested those against lesser skilled teams and seen the evolving weaknesses, now, ON THE ROAD and against teams expected to be in the hunt in postseason, we again are at a point of weeding out problems particularly at center, or more correctly, manning center appropriately to win against stiffer competition? 

 

The season is a series of tests. I get the concern that this team is playing too loose to face Minnesota, Winnipeg, and Tampa in three games on the road. This may very well be true, but it is still early in the season and games are more wide open early. Minnesota has given up 6 goals in 2 games so far. So our style may still work at this point.

 

Also, while it was preseason, that last game vs Nashville had a very regular season feel to it, and we kept with them.

 

But yes, this will be a very tough 3 game test. Last year those three teams went 90-23-12 at home. Overall chance of a clean win in each game last year was 20%. Really going 1-1-1 would be phenomenal. 

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15 minutes ago, remkin said:

 

Interesting. It seems pretty apparent that we could really use another center. Aho is doing well overall, but is still learning the 1C. TT was sort of blunt in his between periods interview. He was asked how Aho was doing at center, and he said, "OK. We both can do better." And Wallmark is starting to show his stuff as "4C". Playing with Svech helps. Despite some struggles those two are at least holding their own, and Aho is scoring. But so far Necas seems in over his head at center. He is a 19 yo rookie, so long term I'm not worried, but this  year?

 

I think we might look to a center for the third line. We've been round and round and round on this, it is extremely rare for a true 1C to be available. But a solid 3C could move Necas to the wing to learn NHL center in stages. Also provide some depth. If one of our centers goes down now we are really stretching.

2 things:

A. I asked Michael Smith in twitter about him saying we may not be done. He said he had no idea what I was talking about.

 

B. We should do something.  Im in the camp of either send Necas down to AHL or put some talent around him. He looks rushed out there and McGinn / PDG / Zykov aren't the help he needs.  Either go Necas-Wallmark-Svech or send Necas down for more seasoning.  Bring up the Roy or Kuok for more offense or bring up a fourth line type like McKegg or Brown. OR could make a move to bring Necas some veteran presence with skill to help him out.

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3 minutes ago, gocanes0506 said:

@legend-1   Others had the same thought.  Gino Reda at TSN said after 35 games last season there were 217 goals and after 35 games this season, 218 goals.  A 1 goal difference from the pads.

They were talking about this on NHL.com and sort of blew Elliot off as making excuses. I'm just reporting here, I really don't know.

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Just now, gocanes0506 said:

2 things:

A. I asked Michael Smith in twitter about the him saying we may not be done. He said he had no idea what I was talking about.

NHL on XM does archive stuff for a while. I'm not sure, it might still be on there. Now I'd love to find it....not sure I want to take the time though. I was listening while shooting some hoops at the gym, maybe I misheard. I don't think so though..

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I don't think Necas at center is working, Wallmark is, Aho is, we could use another center, yes.  I would let Necas move to wing.

 

Getting a 3C could work, a 2C even better.  Don't have to find the white elephant 1C in my opinion.

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31 minutes ago, gocanes0506 said:

2 things:

A. I asked Michael Smith in twitter about him saying we may not be done. He said he had no idea what I was talking about.

 

OK, this was eating at me since I don't want to misquote him (since he's kind of my boss on here).  If you want to send him another tweet ask him what he meant talking with Scott Laughlin at the 1:26:16 mark (Monday) when he said:

 

"And I think more changes are ahead. TD is dedicated to making this team better from top to bottom."

 

Sure, it's vague, (of course more changes are ahead eventually) but if that's it, then why bring it up? It was unprompted and came on the heels of him talking about the team giving themselves a good place in the standings "heading into November and December when the pace starts to pick up..." then, "I think more changes are ahead."

 

I took that to mean that as games tightened up and got more difficult, we might make a move to make us better. (This is about 2-3 weeks ahead. Thus, we are not done yet.) 

 

I may be interpreting that wrong, but it is nice to know at least I wasn't dreaming it.

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23 minutes ago, hag65 said:

I don't think Necas at center is working, Wallmark is, Aho is, we could use another center, yes.  I would let Necas move to wing.

 

Getting a 3C could work, a 2C even better.  Don't have to find the white elephant 1C in my opinion.

I agree with you hag on the 1C, but curious about your thought on the 2C? If we were to do that, where does that move Jordan, unless you see him now performing as  1C? I do agree that he's playing hungry, but do we go that route? 3C is the position we need and move Necas, as you suggest, to wing or let him spend some time in Charlotte. While I would hate to lose his speed, and it has been in flashes truly amazing, maybe he needs a short breather?

 

And rem, I know I wasn't dreaming Forslund's comments on After Math last night either, although have no way to replay it?

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10 minutes ago, KJUNKANE said:

I agree with you hag on the 1C, but curious about your thought on the 2C? If we were to do that, where does that move Jordan, unless you see him now performing as  1C? I do agree that he's playing hungry, but do we go that route? 3C is the position we need and move Necas, as you suggest, to wing or let him spend some time in Charlotte. While I would hate to lose his speed, and it has been in flashes truly amazing, maybe he needs a short breather?

 

And rem, I know I wasn't dreaming Forslund's comments on After Math last night either, although have no way to replay it?

After math, as in post game? or else where?

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TSN: Pierre LeBrun notes that the Carolina Hurricanes really liked goaltender Curtis McElhinney and it wouldn’t have been surprised if they would have put a waiver claim on him even if Scott Darling didn’t get injured. The Hurricanes have looked at him for a while. Once Darling is healthy, they do have the option and roster space to carry three goaltenders as they decide on who to keep.

 

 

 

I know there's only 2 nets in practice, but eventually we could waive one of the three. 

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https://mynhltraderumors.com/could-the-toronto-maple-leafs-trade-william-nylander/2018/10/09/

 

This is a piece that quotes Darren Dreger on Nylander's contract situation. It is a fairly long (for them) quote but the meat of the part that interests us:

 

 LeBrun said Dubas had spoken with the Hurricanes regarding defenseman Justin Faulk, who’s been linked to the Leafs for months in the rumor mill. While Dubas was apparently simply “kicking tires” on Faulk, there might be a trade fit there. The Hurricanes could use skilled depth at center plus they have plenty of cap space(over $15 million) to sign Nylander.

 

Dreger is reliable and is well sourced. In no way means it will happen, but it's more than just an Ek fantasy.

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5 minutes ago, remkin said:

https://mynhltraderumors.com/could-the-toronto-maple-leafs-trade-william-nylander/2018/10/09/

 

This is a piece that quotes Darren Dreger on Nylander's contract situation. It is a fairly long (for them) quote but the meat of the part that interests us:

 

 LeBrun said Dubas had spoken with the Hurricanes regarding defenseman Justin Faulk, who’s been linked to the Leafs for months in the rumor mill. While Dubas was apparently simply “kicking tires” on Faulk, there might be a trade fit there. The Hurricanes could use skilled depth at center plus they have plenty of cap space(over $15 million) to sign Nylander.

I’d be ok with that...

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