gocanes0506 Report post Posted February 25, 2019 I wonder if a move with Vegas in the off-season could be feasible? They have about 10 million in cap space and need to re-sign Subban, Karlsson and need a RHD. We could take both off their hands for a RHD and a roster bottom 6 forward. That is all I got cuz we are let to think about the future. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OBXer Report post Posted February 25, 2019 15 minutes ago, rocheccw said: Didn't Francis say this last year right before he was promoted? I mean fired... Yeah but RF didn't have the Nino you get a pass on this one card in his pocket Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Derailed75 Report post Posted February 25, 2019 22 minutes ago, rocheccw said: Well at least we got to keep Ferland...otherwise we got PU! Well Jurco... Can't believe we didn't give up a single draft pick for an NHL player...better hope the Pens or MTL fall apart. CBJ are probably not catchable now that they are all In. Yeah that's how team sports win, you just throw guys together Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KJUNKANE Report post Posted February 25, 2019 Well guys, March 15th will be the day that the proof will be in the pudding, and as The Great Thinker, Forrest Gump would say, "And that's all I got to say about that". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canesfanforever Report post Posted February 25, 2019 I had a Feeling the canes were not going to make any big moves , Given of who was up for grabs as a rental this year you could say the canes did their big moves during the offseason last year . and to get Nino from the wild for rask was just amazing , and the fact we got McElhinney for nothing ? that is a steal if there ever was one ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danimal38 Report post Posted February 25, 2019 I guess we could look at J Staal as our deadline acquisition. I mean we have the best record since new years and now we have added J Staal to the line up. Right?! Columbus better hope all their additions gel together and have some chemistry. At least we got that going for us. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spyglass88 Report post Posted February 25, 2019 I wonder how much no-trade clauses figured into us missing out on Stone and a few other elite players (assuming we tried to get them). One big problem we've faced over the years is the hesitancy of elite players to come to Carolina because we are a small market, we had losing teams since 2009, etc. I worry that NTCs also may thwart our ability to get an elite player(s) in a hockey trade after the season ends. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canes06cup17 Report post Posted February 25, 2019 Im glad we kept Ferland. 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AWACSooner Report post Posted February 25, 2019 1 hour ago, OBXer said: Svech’s best friend from Vancouver just went to the Evil Empire? Sweet! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KJUNKANE Report post Posted February 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, AWACSooner said: Svech’s best friend from Vancouver just went to the Evil Empire? Sweet! And JR is being roasted as well as his sanity questioned by Pens' fans?? Gudbranson REALLY? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caniac_fan Report post Posted February 25, 2019 Just now, KJUNKANE said: And JR is being roasted as well as his sanity questioned by Pens' fans?? Gudbranson REALLY? Couldn't happen to a nicer fellow 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ironman87 Report post Posted February 25, 2019 It is difficult to see the rich get richer. However it is nice to see them mortgage their futures for a not-so-secure present. When I look at the entirety of our in-season acquisitions. We got McElhinney for nothing. And we got Nino for 4M bag of pucks. While it was not deadline splashy, we are playing well and we have a playoff team. Are we going to win it all? probably not. But if we play like we have been playing, we are going to make the playoffs. I also think we are going to get help from within. Svech has been really close to making things happen for us. I could see him scoring a lot of goals in a hurry with the way he shoots the puck... I guess we will see. Stone or Hoffman would have been nice, but alas it did not happen. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bluedevil58 Report post Posted February 25, 2019 All things considered, this was a great trade deadline day. We are going for it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sportsfan-1-2 Report post Posted February 25, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, ironman87 said: It is difficult to see the rich get richer. However it is nice to see them mortgage their futures for a not-so-secure present. When I look at the entirety of our in-season acquisitions. We got McElhinney for nothing. And we got Nino for 4M bag of pucks. While it was not deadline splashy, we are playing well and we have a playoff team. Are we going to win it all? probably not. But if we play like we have been playing, we are going to make the playoffs. I also think we are going to get help from within. Svech has been really close to making things happen for us. I could see him scoring a lot of goals in a hurry with the way he shoots the puck... I guess we will see. Stone or Hoffman would have been nice, but alas it did not happen. There's still the offseason. I know our main priorities would be signing Aho, trying to retain Ferland and get a top tier goalie on the market but why mess with anything right now if it's working. This team is playing like dynamite and have already proven they can beat anybody on any given night. See Dallas, Pittsburgh, Nashville, Vegas. I would like our recent success on the road carry over to our play at home. Even though our home record is slightly better we have been playing better on the road of late than at home. I'd like to see that spill over to our home play because we have a big five game home stand coming up against some top tier teams in mid March. I wouldn't mind a 4-1 record during that home stand (same record we had on a 5 game road trip; franchise best). Edited February 25, 2019 by Sportsfan-1-2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canesfanforever Report post Posted February 25, 2019 1 hour ago, spyglass88 said: I wonder how much no-trade clauses figured into us missing out on Stone and a few other elite players (assuming we tried to get them). One big problem we've faced over the years is the hesitancy of elite players to come to Carolina because we are a small market, we had losing teams since 2009, etc. I worry that NTCs also may thwart our ability to get an elite player(s) in a hockey trade after the season ends. Those no trade clauses were the work of Rutherford and Francis . They hand them out when there was no need to just to hand them out to anyone . It explains why the canes lost so much ground after winning the cup . Nearly everyone from that team were ufa's that the canes lost out on getting back in return for anything , It hurt the team then and still lingers to this day . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spyglass88 Report post Posted February 25, 2019 If the Committee and HCRB do nothing more this season than roll back the culture of mediocrity we've languished in since 2009, it will be a successful one. Signing de Hann, drafting Svech, making JWilly captain, the Calgary trade, signing Mrazek and grabbing McElhinney off waivers, and the Nino trade—all superb moves. The chemistry we've seen since the first of January seems to have staying power. Even moving Skinner arguably has contributed to building a different culture (even though we screwed up by not getting more of a return). Let's make the playoffs, trade D for O during the offseason, sign Aho, Ferland, and JWilly, and either sign McE and/or Mrazek for next year or get a top goalie on the FA market and next year will be even better. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
realmdrakkar Report post Posted February 25, 2019 1 hour ago, OBXer said: Yeah but RF didn't have the Nino you get a pass on this one card in his pocket This. No moves at the deadline is definitely reminiscent of last year, but RF went what, 3 seasons without making a single player-for-player trade? It's well-documented how i feel about the Skinner deal and perhaps the Lindholm deal can be debated as well, but they're both more than RF ever managed, and i think to a person every Canes fan will say Waddell struck gold trading Rask for Nino. And as stated, we didn't 'limp to the deadline' - this team has been one of the hottest teams in the league for a couple months now and they keep it up, nobody's going to be lamenting Waddell not trading X for Y at the deadline. Let's do this... 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spyglass88 Report post Posted February 25, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Canesfanforever said: Those no trade clauses were the work of Rutherford and Francis . They hand them out when there was no need to just to hand them out to anyone . It explains why the canes lost so much ground after winning the cup . Nearly everyone from that team were ufa's that the canes lost out on getting back in return for anything , It hurt the team then and still lingers to this day . I actually was thinking about the NTCs for players on other teams we might like to acquire. But I agree that the NTCs that JR and RF handed out didn't really help the team in the long run. Edited February 25, 2019 by spyglass88 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LakeLivin Report post Posted February 25, 2019 2 hours ago, OBXer said: Stone to Vegas Glad he didn't go to one of the Eastern teams competing with us for a playoff spot! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cc Report post Posted February 25, 2019 42 minutes ago, bluedevil58 said: All things considered, this was a great trade deadline day. We are going for it! I am glad it made you happy. Now my life is complete. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KJUNKANE Report post Posted February 25, 2019 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Canesfanforever said: Those no trade clauses were the work of Rutherford and Francis . They hand them out when there was no need to just to hand them out to anyone . It explains why the canes lost so much ground after winning the cup . Nearly everyone from that team were ufa's that the canes lost out on getting back in return for anything , It hurt the team then and still lingers to this day . I was going to answer you like spyglass eventually did and I'm glad he clarified before I read thru the remainder of the texts. He obviously was referring to NTCs for players we were trying to get, not on ours as those would not have affected us trying to get a new player in? Yeah, there are still 2 or 3 remnants of foolish NTCs those 2 handed out, which do hobble us to some degree, but not in this situation cff. And with our Cap hit so low, probably none at all? Edited February 25, 2019 by KJUNKANE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bluedevilcane Report post Posted February 25, 2019 9 hours ago, OBXer said: Columbus has been busy, busy, busy So Devils got a fifth round pick in 2022 for Kincaid. Apparently, Columbus made so many trades their bag of pucks had already been taken. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bluedevilcane Report post Posted February 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Canesfanforever said: Those no trade clauses were the work of Rutherford and Francis . They hand them out when there was no need to just to hand them out to anyone . It explains why the canes lost so much ground after winning the cup . Nearly everyone from that team were ufa's that the canes lost out on getting back in return for anything , It hurt the team then and still lingers to this day . As far as I know, Whitney was the only player from the 2006 team that refused to waive a NTC for a trade at the deadline, and that was probably in 2008, and was for family reasons. RB retired here, Stillman and Commodore were traded to Ottawa, Recchi was a UFA, as was Weight, who signed with St. Louis, from whom we acquired him in the first place. Whitney might have brought back a first rounder, but I don’t think it imploded the team for 9 years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bluedevilcane Report post Posted February 26, 2019 Oh, and Francis had nothing to do with the front office in 2006. Don’t think he had even started working for the organization. Blame JR for a lot, but he absolutely orchestrated putting together the team that won the Cup after the 2005 lockout. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bluedevilcane Report post Posted February 26, 2019 And E Staal signed an extension with the Wild, 2 years at $3.25 per. Wonder if he would have stayed here if we offered him $16 million for 5 years, which is what the Wild are paying. I know most here are glad he moved on. Wonder how Jordan feels about being locked down in Carolina for so long after Eric left. Maybe he likes it here - I think Eric did for most of the time here, but I’m sure he doesn’t like no playoffs (yet) for so many years after leaving Pittsburgh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
