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7 hours ago, LFADAM said:

Was in attendance for the first time in 2 years and it looks like the old Canes showed up tonight. 

 

Boys looked slow. Aho didn't look sharp. I never want to blame a loss on one player, but McGinn really crapped the bed on that play.

 

Hamilton is playing with a lot of confidence and seems like he's always firing on net. And Haula is always in front of the net. Just wish Aho and Nino could get it going.

 

I was there too and that McGinn turnover for the GWG was a gut punch.  It was obviously a close game, pretty even in shots, chances, on the scoreboard, but it sure seemed like Columbus was the superior team, better passing, frustrating the Canes in the neutral zone.  The Canes passing was awful.  The stat sheet showed the Canes with 10 giveaways...it seemed like about 30 or 40.

 

On Aho, I am concerned that John Forslund in the Aftermath show said he is “worried” about Aho and his play, wondering if he’s cracking under this big contract and responsibility.  Said his play was indistinguishable from a journeyman 3rd or 4th line center on the opposing team.  Reminded listeners that Eric Staal struggled for years to be the same player he was before his big contract.  Yikes!  Did anyone else hear this?  Hope Johnny is wrong here, but for him to say it as close as he is to the team and especially since he is not one to recklessly criticize players is interesting, troubling.

 

I blame Mrs. Storm for the loss too.  She dug out her Cory Stillman white jersey for white-out night that she bought at a Canes clearance sale many years ago.  She hadn’t worn it in about 5 years because the Canes were something like 0-5 when she wore it.  Now make it 0-6!

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Canes weren't the Canes in the first 5 games.  Gotta give credit to Columbus though.  They played a really good road game and they've given us fits every year.  Even I knew we weren't going to win every game, as much as I'd like them too we can't, it's an impossible dream. 

 

Regarding Aho, I hope he is having his usual (except last season) October slump because this appears to be more than snake bit, it's like a witch put a spell on him.  At times he looks like he's doing too much on the ice.  I hope he and Nino get going soon.  It's nice being 5-1 and he's not hot yet.  I think Nino, with the chances he's getting will get hot before Aho.

 

Now, the test is to see how this team will rebound after a loss.  This is there first one and there will be more this season.  It's time to see if they can start off on the right foot on this road trip.  I do know the Dzingel-Haula-Necas line has some chemistry and Aho's line is getting chances so they're GETTING there, it's just a matter of WHEN that line will get hot.

 

The good thing about last night was we FINALLY had a well played game in regards to penalties.  Only had 3.  That's more like it.

 

Nothing is good about the loss but sweep it under the rug and move on because no team in NHL history, not even the Edmonton Oilers in the Wayne Gretzky era when they won all those cups went 82-0.

 

I didn't lose any sleep over the loss.  I kinda knew it was going to happen.  Yeah, it was to a division rival but hey, we can get our revenge on them in two weeks (24th), we're back in Columbus.  Nice start to the season and with how we've been playing the last 50 games (when we started playing better), I don't see this team tanking.  Only time will tell.  I won't be on the boards Tuesday since they're out west.  I'll be sleeping but wishing them luck.

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40 minutes ago, Canes06cup17 said:

All good things must come to an end I guess. Hopefully we get back to winning out west.   

 

The good thing about this loss is that it was well played.  I think losses like this are easier to take than an 8-1 drubbing (like WPG gave us last season).  I just want the team to play hard.  If they lose they lose, as long as they play hard and give their best.  I don't know if they gave their best because the players said they were flat but they played hard and that's all you can ask for.  Korpisalo played well and Reimer continues to play well for us.

 

Rebound vs LA and start another streak.  We can't let this loss turn into a losing streak.  Yeah, teams will have those and I did mention earlier that with the season being so long I think any losing streaks greater than 5 games put teams in jeopardy of missing the playoffs.  On the bright side TB lost to Ottawa (gave Ottawa their 1st win).  TB has not been playing all that well this year.  Likely still hung over from being swept by CBJ last season.

 

Picking up 5 of 6 points on this three game road trip before week layoff would be real nice.

 

Only two undefeated teams left now in the NHL (Colorado and Edmonton).  Buffalo and PHI also do not have a regulation loss but they do have an OT/SO loss.

 

Despite the loss I still think this team will win 50 games.  They've already proven what they can do after last year.

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10 hours ago, LFADAM said:

 I never want to blame a loss on one player, but McGinn really crapped the bed on that play.

A couple of minutes later TiVo turned the puck over in almost exactly the same place.  Instead of whatever it was that McGinn did, TiVo chased the guy and dove face first into his skates to tip the puck off his stick and end the threat.  That’s what great players do.  (Elite players wouldn’t have made the turnover...)

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I wish they didn't lose when I went, but this was the game I feared in my first post. They had to have a purely off game and this was it. Two ways to look at it IMO. One way is that we kept it close despite 85% of the team in low level game mode. The second is that this game was still there for the taking and we just could not get to another gear, and really good teams do sometimes find ways to win when their A game doesn't show up. Reimer played very well overall, I had thought though on the game winner, the guy couldn't use the whole net and Reimer might have been able to take away that short side. Not on him though. 

 

Columbus doesn't have a ton of talent, but they play with a lot of structure and kept us from our game pretty much of the night. 

 

There is a general tendency for teams to take a few losses in a row after a streak goes down, and it's going to be a challenge on this West Coast trip, then a long layoff before getting another shot at these guys in Columbus. 

 

The beauty of a 5 game win streak, is that you just need to not go on a losing streak to stay in position. Get this one back in LA, and it's all back on track.

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Have to laugh a little.  Was hitting the blogs, Instagram, and some of the other feeds out there on the interweb.  The doom and gloom I see from some Canes fans over losing our first game would actually make most of us rational fans roll our eyes and chuckle. Not sure if it is "pie in the sky" thinking, lack of fandom experience (lack of winning), or just smoking illegal substances. 

 

Not preaching to the choir or anyone in here, but WE WILL have some stinkers this year.  Last night was one. There will be more.  Im just a little amazed that there are some "fans" that think we should go 82-0.  It's almost not even worth posting about it but I thought it might provide some of you a chuckle as well.  I'll say this, I want us to stay as away from that Pres Trophy for obvious reasons.

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I agree with surfzone365 it isn't close to time to press the panic button. At the moment we lost a game, one game. The team was flat and reading Chip this morning Brindy said the Canes were flat and got what they deserved. The next game is important only in the sense that if you bounce back you stop the nail biting and get back to our game.

 

There are some concerns. Aho and Nino need to get going. Like the loss it is too early to panic but especially Aho is under the magnifying glass after signing the offer sheet and getting a big money contract. Aho traditionally starts slow but when you get paid as the big dog you have the pressure to be that big dog.

 

I suppose the loss over shadowed Dougie's latest goal. Right now he is a special player to watch.

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1 hour ago, remkin said:

I wish they didn't lose when I went, but this was the game I feared in my first post. They had to have a purely off game and this was it.

 

Was at a wedding yesterday and got home just in time to hear a bit from John F. on the radio debrief after the game.  He basically said if you gotta lose, this might be a good one to do so.  Paraphrasing a bit, he said it should bring them to reality and perhaps light a fire for the trip.  We'll see.

 

I missed his Aho comments, but man, that's harsh about the pressure.  I hated hearing the old "He's working too hard and putting too much pressure on himself" for E. Staal.  I really don't want to go through that again.  Hopefully, Aho can find his game soon.  Maybe a road trip away from the fans will help.  We'll see.

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I'm going to stick by what I've been saying.  This team has something to prove this year after what they did last season.  All the offseason acquisitions and trades has definitely made this team better.  They just have to show it on the ice.  Yes, they lost last night and they'll lose again this season.  It's a long season and one loss is not the end of the world. 

 

Anyway, barring any major injuries to our star players I do think this team will win 50 games and may even set a franchise record for wins in a season (that's franchise record since they moved to Carolina) if they win more than 52.  The fact they lost 3-2 by playing a 'stinker' tells you how good this team can be when they're on.  Heck, that game could've gone either way.  Gotta give Columbus credit too, they played shut down hockey on the road after they got the lead and they've always given us fits.

 

Hopefully, the way they played last night will motivate them to start out better on this trip and get a win in LA.  They have another B2B and 3 games in 5 days off in California before they have a week off.  The NHL has been really rough on them to start this season (3 B2B's in the first month seems like punishment).

 

To prove last night's game is behind them they really need to have a better start in LA.

 

Aho NEEDS to get going.  Again, it could be his usual October slump he's had since he's been in the league but he's making me wonder if he's even worth the contract he signed.  He should be performing.  He has no pressure on him because the contract is signed.  Nino is starting to break out.  He doesn't have a goal but he has 3 assists and 3 points in his last 3 games.  I do have a feeling he'll pot 1 before Aho gets going.  However, being 5-1 with Aho not scoring just goes to show you we don't NEED him to contribute to win, but we do NEED him to get hot because I can only imagine how this team will be when he gets hot.  The goals will come.  He's too good to be playing like this.  I can understand if he was under pressure from waiting for a new contract to sign but it's signed.  No more pressure.  Just play your game.  Maybe Brindy should have a closed door meeting with him.

 

Here's hoping for a very successful west coast trip.  Right now it appears the only tough opponent record wise is Anaheim.  But any of those teams can beat us.  We put our best game on the ice these next three games we have a chance.  Let's not let this loss carry over to a losing streak.  Pick up the pieces, move on and play a better game Tuesday.  I'm looking forward to revenge on the 24th too in CBJ.

 

On a side note:

In case Brindy wants to break up the lines or something leave the Dzingel-Haula-Necas line together.  That's the one line that is contributing consistently and TT and Nino are starting to get going (Nino has 3 assists).  Just get Aho going.

 

Get em Tuesday Carolina.  LA is a dangerous team right now.  Look what they did to Nashville late in the game.

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3 hours ago, surfzone365 said:

The doom and gloom I see from some Canes fans over losing our first game would actually make most of us rational fans roll our eyes and chuckle.

College basketball fans just don't can't understand.

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31 minutes ago, Sportsfan-1-2 said:

You know, I've been thinking.  What is the best start to a season without a loss for an NHL team?

10-0, Toronto and Buffalo, 93 and 06

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Parity.  

 

Defined as the NHL, a sports league where any team has a reasonable opportunity to beat any other team on any given day.  Instituted to keep fans interested in their teams' prospects for making the playoffs for the maximum amount of time and $$ possible.  League officials are always coming up with re-designs to augment the plan.

 

Parity.

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28 minutes ago, Red_Storm said:

10-0, Toronto and Buffalo, 93 and 06

 

Amazing.  One thing I don't want to happen after a franchise best start is to miss the playoffs.  I've not anywhere close to hitting the panic button on this team and only 3 teams have missed the playoffs after having the start Carolina has had and the last was the Canadiens in 2015-2016.  Like I said, I do believe we can win 50 games but for that prediction to come to fruition got to see where we are record wise after November, which is around the time we have a yearly collapse.  Although with the way this team is built this year I don't see that happening.  Only time will tell.  We need to have a good road trip.  Pick up 4 or 5 points before coming back home for that week break.

2 minutes ago, beboplar said:

Parity.  

 

Defined as the NHL, a sports league where any team has a reasonable opportunity to beat any other team on any given day.  Instituted to keep fans interested in their teams' prospects for making the playoffs for the maximum amount of time and $$ possible.  League officials are always coming up with re-designs to augment the plan.

 

Parity.

 

Ottawa beat Tampa Bay and I'm sure Tampa Bay were heavy favorites in that game, especially now that they have Point back.  There defense is not playing up to par right now.  Their PK is really struggling.  Our PK is better than theirs at the moment.  You can have the best team on paper, have to show it on the ice.

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We go 5-0, come out flat and lose by one goal. Even mentioning the panic button is just, well, :coollaugh::rofl::coollaugh::spin:.

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The boys are playing a much more physical brand of hockey, which is why they have been getting to and holding the slot. That takes it out of you, especially in the second game of a back-to-back. I think they took a breath pre-Cali.

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55 minutes ago, remkin said:

We go 5-0, come out flat and lose by one goal. Even mentioning the panic button is just, well, :coollaugh::rofl::coollaugh::spin:.

 

I'm sure there were quite a few games last year that we didn't have it but there is one in particular that we came out 'flat' in.  In that game, at home WPG spanked us 8-1.  I'll take a 3-2 loss for a team that came out 'flat' than an 8-1 loss.  It just goes to show you this team is miles better than last year.  Goaltending might even be the same if not better than last season.

 

This team didn't have it last night and STILL kept the game close and almost escaped with at least a point if not for the turnover.  That's pretty remarkable and it's never fun talking about a loss.

 

Yes, it's October and it's a long season.  I'd love for us to take at least 4 points on this 3 game trip through California, which includes ANOTHER B2B.  Maybe the boys will be extra motivated after there play yesterday to get right back on the saddle and not have a repeat game unless the goalie lays an egg.

 

The only thing I'm starting to panic a little about is Aho.  When is he going to get hot? Is he having his usual October slow start, which if that's the case we'll find out when November gets here or is it something else.  Nino is closer to breaking out at this point than Aho is.

 

I just find it a little odd that his (Aho) line hasn't gotten in the groove yet (Teuvo is hot though) because that line had chemistry last season once Nino came over.

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To offer another perspective to the panic button, after the loss, the Athletic has us projected to finish 3rd...in the league with 104 points (behind Tampa and Boston) and a 93% chance of making the playoffs. 

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4 minutes ago, remkin said:

To offer another perspective to the panic button, after the loss, the Athletic has us projected to finish 3rd...in the league with 104 points (behind Tampa and Boston) and a 93% chance of making the playoffs. 

Where's super dave and his jinx-off when you need him?

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19 minutes ago, Sportsfan-1-2 said:

game trip through California, which includes ANOTHER B2B. 

I seriously want to know who hates us at NHL scheduling and if there’s any way to address the crap B2B scheduling they seem to put us in...take a look at the weekends in March!

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3 minutes ago, top-shelf-1 said:

Where's super dave and his jinx-off when you need him?

Waiting for my next GDT

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9 minutes ago, remkin said:

To offer another perspective to the panic button, after the loss, the Athletic has us projected to finish 3rd...in the league with 104 points (behind Tampa and Boston) and a 93% chance of making the playoffs. 

 

Not panicking at all yet...way too early for that.  November seems to always be our worst month.  Gotta see how we do that month.  I don't see this team tanking like in years past during that time...but time will tell. 

 

Starting to get a little worried about Aho not scoring but 1 point thus far. 

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