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Tanabe being hurt is addition by subtraction. I'd much rather have Hutch quarterbacking our powerplay than Snuggles.

The person who sits in front of me at the games also calls Tanabe snuggles. Where did he get that name?

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Tanabe being hurt is addition by subtraction. I'd much rather have Hutch quarterbacking our powerplay than Snuggles.

The person who sits in front of me at the games also calls Tanabe snuggles. Where did he get that name?

Those who think Tanabe plays too soft for an NHL defenseman call him that. Others, based on his career -53 career +/- ratio and other factors derisively refer to him as "avi Tanabe" because he has no "D".

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The mention of an NHL job for K Adams was in reference to the Players Association. Trevor Lyndon on the Canucks was the last president of the union and Adams is our teams representative. Tripp was only saying that he may one day become the president of the Players Association.

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Thanks for the heads up on that. I know there's been many posts on a possible K Adams trade. I do know he's not getting much ice time and then hearing this last night got me to wondering. He could still play and handle this job as well so I worried for nothing. Thanks again !

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To me it's still the D, both the defensemen themselves and many of the forwards disinterest in playing tough, two-way games. Some night Williams just goes through the motions in his own end, Staal just watches, and Cole brings the tough forecheck only every couple of games or so. Hedican has been a turnover machine and Gleason has actually regressed since his arrival.
I think Gleason is injured and hiding it. Hedican has had more surgerys in the last several months than he has fingers and toes (exaggerating). Staal is lacking heart. I think Williams needs a reason (a motivated team) to spark himself into the game. Cole has been bringing it more than anyone else.

This has not been an easy start to a season for many reasons. No need to list them, but I think we'll have a better idea of where the team is headed by mid-January.

Gleason hasn't been the same since returning from his injury. I don't know if that's because of lingering aftereffects or if he's aggravated something else compensating or if he just rusted during his recovery.

You have to consider too that last year we had 11 guys have career years another guy tie a career year and all at the same time. There's a reason they're called "career years" folks, and if they were that common they'd just be "years". It's not realistic to expect a repeat performance -- the math is just all wrong. Law of averages says that's not gonna happen two years in a row.

As far as "new blood" goes, Brindy and the new guys have been what's kept us in the hunt most nights. Scott Walker may be the most consistently good forward we have. And with the amount of intensity Belanger brings every night, I'm surprised he's not collecting more minutes than he is. Staal faltered last year when Cole got hurt and it seems like the combination of the two Eric/ks with Stillman was more of a package deal than anyone realized. Stiller can't get healthy too soon, and when he does I look for a dramatic turnaround in this line.

I've been impressed with Craig Adams in the last couple of games. For a guy who's spent most of his career as a role-player, he's actually got a pretty good scoring touch. Not that he's burning out the goal lamp you understand, but he might if he moved up to the third (or even the second) line. Anybody rememebr the year Sean Hill potted 20? I do :D.

The "D", as a group, has in my opinion improved vastly over the start of the season -- even over last season. Babchuk is turning into a truly solid two-way player as is Commie. My only knock on commodore is that he sometimes overplays the puck -- meaning he gets overly aggressive and puts himself out of position. But he's getting a LOT better about that and I'd a whole lot rather see a guy being OVER aggressive than timid. Especially a D-man.

Wesley and Hedican are not as bad as people here seem to think. But they're adopting more of a stay-at-home style that I'd like to see change. Wes -- once upon a time -- was considered a scoring threat and Hedican skates far too well to hunker down at the blue line.

With Tanabe hurt again, maybe Hutch will get a few more games with some qulaity 5-on-5 time. He was showing promise earlier in the year and I'd like to see him get more ice. But right now there's really not room for a power play specialist (even though the power play could certainly USE one!)

Overall, I have no objection to a "no-name defense" -- it worked for the '72 Dolphins. Defense by committee is fine by me, but there doesn't seem to be any kind of consistency in the pairings. I honestly can't tell you who's regularly partnered with whom and that's every bit as important as keeping forward lines together. Maybe more so since there's only two of them. Maybe it's just me, but I can't keep track of who plays with whom on the back end.

I'm not pushing the panic button and I don't expect to see Lumpy holding a fire sale at the trading deadline. IF -- and it's a big "if" -- Kevyn Adams is going anywhere, look for it to happen around the end of the calendar year. Probably the week between Christmas and New Year's. Historically that seems to be a favorite time of year for this club to deal. I don't know why.

So the question persists, if we're to bring in new blood, what is it we're looking for? What do we need? I think before you start trading guys, you need to identify that. Then the question becomes: is there anyone currently being shopped that (a) we can get for who we have to offer and (B) will mesh with the overall makeup of the team?

Never mind the question of who would go in the trade. I somehow can't see Tanabe fetching anything of value, but then again we ARE talking about the GM who managed to unload Oleg Tverdovsky without being taken to the cleaners (and no, I don't want to turn this into another Jack Johnson debate -- the opinions on both sides fo that argument have been well-documented already). K Adams has been mentioned here, but I haven't seen anything official to support it other than a decline in ice time which could just as easily be explained by Kevyn playing with an undisclosed injury (this is, after all, the guy who played most of Game 7 with a broken wrist).

Whatever moves JR may or may not make I can almost guarantee you that (1) he won't make drastic changes (unless his hand is forced by a Canes player, which I can't see happening) (2) we probably won't see the logic in it -- at least not immediately and (3) there will be fans who will second guess, weep and gnash teeth whatever he does.

On that second point -- the one where we don't see the logic in it -- there've been countless times in the past that I've thought Lumpy was smoking crack. Dealing Andy Cassels (without whom Geoff Sanderson faded into obscurity) was a disaster -- or so I thought at the time. But in the deal we got Gary Roberts and Trevor Kidd both of whom turned out to be key players that year and the next. The Sanderson-Burke for Gelinas-McLean looked like a zero-sum deal until Marty Gelinas blossomed as a hero in the '02 playoffs. Those two come to mind right away -- and I'm sure that there are others of our esteemed brethren who can name several others. The whole Pronger-Shanahan-Primeau circus eventually brought us Rod Brind'Amour and who doesn't think we wound up the ultimate winner in that story?

So whatever happens, the changes will be incremental and no matter what we might think about them when they happen, history suggests that despite sometimes popular opinion, the Canes management really DOES know what they're doing most of the time.

Too bad there's not REALLY an "Easy Button"...

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That was quite a post. How about a 2-sentence summary? :D

Don't look for big changes, and trust the Canes' management. ;)

That was an excellent post, though, Canesmojo. You look at it all very objectively and thoroughly. Agree with it all the way.

I'm really looking forward to seeing Hutch play some more again now that Tanabe is out, as he was one of the best things on the PP when he's played and I think he has a lot of potential if he's just given the chance. Last night when I saw the lineup and I saw Tanabe in and Hutch out I swore for several minutes at the tv. :lol:

No big moves are really needed yet. Heck, we still haven't seen the team play healthy yet. The IR list just keeps growing as soon as it looks like it's about to be empty, though.

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Why all the hostility toward Tanabe? Last time I checked he is not the Carolina Hurricanes! The problem is simply that we looked lethargic until Vancouver scoed their 3rd goal.Hopefully we can get it together by the All-Star break!

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That was quite a post. How about a 2-sentence summary? :D

Sorry... but I get caught up in things -- especially when the discussion turns to My Hurricanes ;)

Basically, don't panic, the sky is not falling at this point. And when and if the time comes, there'll be people in the front office who're WAY more tuned in to the team and the league and the players than we are making the decisions. And even if it might not seem like it at the time, the decisions will in all probability turn out to be the right ones.

Oops... sorry, that was three sentences wasn't it? See?

I'm blogging... and I can't shut up!

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I'm not worried. The team has played a lot of games, and the popular suggestion of a bag skate would be far more detrimental than helpful. 3 games in 4 nights in 3 different cities would be tiring for anyone, let alone a hockey team.

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Great post Mojo!!!!! You forgot one other deal: the one which sent Ozolinsh(spelling) to Florida for Hedican and KAds. In 2002, Ozo was becoming one our bigger disappointments. When he was sent packing to FL and KAds and Hedican arrived, they both had an instant impact on the ice.

I remember sitting in our old section watching KAds fly up and down the ice and thought that this guy was fast and worked so hard. KAds great work ethic was noticed imediately.

Funny note: The guys sitting behind us in that section yelled "Yamaguchi" every time Hedican touched the puck and "way to go new guy!" every time KAds did. Interesting that they both became very important pieces to the team.

Again, great post Mojo and this one's for you.....although your characters are much better!

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Great post Mojo!!!!! You forgot one other deal: the one which sent Ozolinsh(spelling) to Florida for Hedican and KAds. In 2002, Ozo was becoming one our bigger disappointments. When he was sent packing to FL and KAds and Hedican arrived, they both had an instant impact on the ice.

I remember sitting in our old section watching KAds fly up and down the ice and thought that this guy was fast and worked so hard. KAds great work ethic was noticed imediately.

Funny note: The guys sitting behind us in that section yelled "Yamaguchi" every time Hedican touched the puck and "way to go new guy!" every time KAds did. Interesting that they both became very important pieces to the team.

Again, great post Mojo and this one's for you.....although your characters are much better!

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Tanabe being hurt is addition by subtraction. I'd much rather have Hutch quarterbacking our powerplay than Snuggles.

The person who sits in front of me at the games also calls Tanabe snuggles. Where did he get that name?

Those who think Tanabe plays too soft for an NHL defenseman call him that. Others, based on his career -53 career +/- ratio and other factors derisively refer to him as "avi Tanabe" because he has no "D".

"avi tanabe" i like that one... he sucks so much he turn the puck over everytime he has it...can someone plz tell me why he played and hutch

(who i think is really good, him and babs are my 2 fav. canes d-men) didnt play?? and i think justin williams just moved up one spot in my most hated players list b/c avi took that from him....

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theres a reason Boston and Carolina dumped Tanabe...

Carolina lacks toughness...Craig Adams, while he plays an effective role on our energy line, is not the guy to strike fear in our opponents.

Jesse Boulerice needs to return to the 4th line.

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I would have to say all of those he disposed of by way of fist to mandible.

Sometimes thats what it takes to send a message and turn the momentum of a game in OUR favor.

This seems like a lost art and must be re-discovered. Getting away from the basics of hockey could prove detrimental.

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Okay, but my point was is he REALLY THAT scary to other players, 'cause he doesn't even scare me, even when he's dressed in full gear. :? I like Jesse & all, but IMO he doesn't seem to strike fear in the hearts of other players in the league if you know what I mean...

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Not to mention, unless he's improved drastically, his skating ability was nearly non existent. We need skaters on the bench, especially now that we're missing two huge parts to the line up?

Which brings me to my next question:

Will we ever have a full line up this season? We haven't even come close yet. We now have 23 players listed on the roster but never have we had 23 available.

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Not to mention, unless he's improved drastically, his skating ability was nearly non existent. We need skaters on the bench, especially now that we're missing two huge parts to the line up?

Which brings me to my next question:

Will we ever have a full line up this season? We haven't even come close yet. We now have 23 players listed on the roster but never have we had 23 available.

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From what I had been hearing, Jesse's skating has picked up & he's been doing okay up in Albany so far. I think he took it a little more seriously about being a Carolina Hurricane & he looks like he WANTS to do his best this time around, as opposed to not even really staying in shape during the lockout for the next season played & almost just assuming that he'd do fine. He's been given a "second chance" w/ this team, so I think he's really trying to step it up up there. Don't know how he'd do here w/us again, but it would be good to at least get him down here & see what he can do NOW w/ the 'Canes. I'd be interested myself, actually.

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I would have to say all of those he disposed of by way of fist to mandible.

Sometimes thats what it takes to send a message and turn the momentum of a game in OUR favor.

This seems like a lost art and must be re-discovered. Getting away from the basics of hockey could prove detrimental.

People usually aren't that scared of Boulerice.

I think one of the things the 'Canes are lacking is physicality, not an enforcer, but someone to throw the body. Aaron Ward did that well, and losing him, we lost a lot of our physical presence.

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I couldnt agree more with the Aaron Ward observation.

First - Bab's is coming along very well, but lets face it hes not a hitter.

Also - Gleason is playing very poorly imo. At the moment I can't understand why he has a lineup slot. Sure he's not getting us beat, but hes also not making his presence felt at all. Also for what its worth in 22 games played he is LEADING THE TEAM in the worst +/- of our defensemen. I am ok with him being a "project" but he doesnt seem to be learning the system.

http://www.nhl.com/nhlstats/app?fetchKey=2...iewName=summary

Our Forecheck looks sick. Hustle from some players seems to be hit or miss.

Until the hustle occurs all the time while our guys are on the ice, were not going to have better results.

Last year we had the following guys that could pass and get the puck to the open man in a scoring position: Dougie Weight, Stillman, Frank the Tank, Roddie, Whitney.

Please note that only 2 of these guys is playing so far this year AND one just got injured. Also note that of our 10 leaders in Assists last year, 5 have not played for us this year.

Scott Walker gave us another playmaker, but lets face it - Staal, Cole, Williams, and Kevin Adams are not quarterbacks for a power play. Lets suit up Ronnie Franchise.

Powerplay fix = Kab, Stillman, Healthy Rod, Walker, Whitney

Forecheck Fix = EVERYONE hustling their butts off.

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1. Use Tanabe as trade bait, if anyone will take him.

2. Simplify the offense. Quit the stupid fancy passing, just shoot it and get some screens in front of the net.

3. Bringing in a bigger, more physical forward wouldn't hurt.

4. Can our defensemen please stay with the puck? They've looked absolutely lost these past few games and have left Ward and Grahame hanging out to dry.

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Carolina lacks toughness...Craig Adams, while he plays an effective role on our energy line, is not the guy to strike fear in our opponents.

Jesse Boulerice needs to return to the 4th line.

There aren't getting bullied they just aren't committing themselves to the forecheck each night.

They "intimidate" best when they forecheck and skate because that puts teams on their heels. It they do that, they are successful more times than not.

Boulerice or any other enforcer adds little to nothing in this scheme.

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