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SEIDENBURG SHOULD BE PLAYING!!!

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I totally agree. After these last 2 games, I want Hedican benched and Seidenberg in. I think Hedican is tired right now and he should rest up in the pressbox.

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You should change the title to "Hurricanes SHOULD be playing". I havent seen them play lately. Sure, they have uniforms on and are skating, but not much else. Maybe they should go to Hurricanes U and bring a pad and paper for note. They just dont look like they have ANY confidence at all, in themselves or each other. I just hope something changes in their moods before its too late. ps...i do agree seids should be playing. cant be any worse than what ive seen lately.

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Can anyone tell me why Dennis is a healthy scratch,his numbers are better that most of the rest or our D men.He has a great shot and lord knows we could use that instead if those weak wristers from the blue line!He has a good physical game and yep we could use that too!Doesn't make sense to trade for him late in the season and have him on the bench.Gleason and Wesley are our only 2 consistant D men.Tanabe&Comodore are playing well also. He sure as heck can't play any worse than,,#5,#6,#7.

You are so right. They need to make some kind of change and Seidenburg playing would be a good move on defense. Hedican and Tanabe when they are paired together are useless and Wallin has been missing in action.

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does anyone know the logic behind having Seidenburg as a healthy scratch? just makes no sense to me

They don't want to hurt the feelings of Hedican, Wallin, Tanable or Kaberle if they have to be a scratch to make room for him.

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does anyone know the logic behind having Seidenburg as a healthy scratch? just makes no sense to me

Iceberg is the new guy on the team, I can see why they would make him a healthy scratch. I am hoping after last night's game we see a change up from our 9 Dmen roster as to who will be playing tomorrow.

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Can anyone tell me why Dennis is a healthy scratch,his numbers are better that most of the rest or our D men.He has a great shot and lord knows we could use that instead if those weak wristers from the blue line!He has a good physical game and yep we could use that too!Doesn't make sense to trade for him late in the season and have him on the bench.Gleason and Wesley are our only 2 consistant D men.Tanabe&Comodore are playing well also. He sure as heck can't play any worse than,,#5,#6,#7.

He is where he should be, in the press box watching and learning. He started strong but was dreadful his last handful of games. He was a liability at even strength and way too often got completely lost on his positioning and responsibility.

As an example just go back to the ATL game where the Canes lost 3-1. He played mostly at forward that game but also got a couple of shifts on the blue line late in the game. Big mistake. He made at least 3 serious mistakes on one play when Eric Boulton, who has trouble scoring with an empty net, absolutely turned him inside out and scored.

Granted that is just one example but it could have been the single worst defensive play I have seen all year. Prior to that his play had steadily gone downhill and seemed to too often drift off of his defensive positioning, give up too much space in the Canes end, and his gap control was iffy at best too many times.

He does have a nice shot from the point and can play physically but he also tried to make a couple of highlight reel hits that were ill-advised because they left him out of position. I like his overall upside and I think he will be a contributer in the future but he is just too risky to play now given his most recent woes.

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Granted that is just one example but it could have been the single worst defensive play I have seen all year. Prior to that his play had steadily gone downhill and seemed to too often drift off of his defensive positioning, give up too much space in the Canes end, and his gap control was iffy at best too many times.

I've seen Hedican make about a doen worse plays in the last month...and he's slow. The most recent was last night when he mishandled the puck coming around from behind the net to practically hand it off to a Sen for a point blank shot (which Cam stopped), then on a continuation of the same play, Hedican takes the rebound and skates with the puck up to the blue line where he hands it off again to a Sen who whizzes by him for another one on one attempt (which Cam again defends). For an "experienced" D-man, both of these were just sloppy boners which were just two of many for the night.

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Granted that is just one example but it could have been the single worst defensive play I have seen all year. Prior to that his play had steadily gone downhill and seemed to too often drift off of his defensive positioning, give up too much space in the Canes end, and his gap control was iffy at best too many times.

I've seen Hedican make about a doen worse plays in the last month...and he's slow. The most recent was last night when he mishandled the puck coming around from behind the net to practically hand it off to a Sen for a point blank shot (which Cam stopped), then on a continuation of the same play, Hedican takes the rebound and skates with the puck up to the blue line where he hands it off again to a Sen who whizzes by him for another one on one attempt (which Cam again defends). For an "experienced" D-man, both of these were just sloppy boners which were just two of many for the night.

I've have been a constant Hedican critic for almost this entire year on several of these threads. Last night, again he was wretched and I hope he retires. His puck handling and decision making have been very bad.

The one difference though between as bad as they have both been is this. Hedican's errors have been those of commission (turnovers, puck handling, etc.) while Seidenberg's have been errors of omission (not being in the proper position, not sealing off a forward, not getting into position to play a pass, etc.).

I am in no way absolving Hedican's terrible play but errors of commission happen to every D man every night while you lose games because of errors of omission. Seidenberg's D is too leaky to risk right now although I would really limit Hedican's minutes going forward.

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^^ stormrider, you want seids benched for a "dreadfull handfull of games." im not disagreeing, but that statement could be made about quite a few canes players lately. But other than Staal,and maybe Tanabe, nobody is suggesting who else get benched. And before you ask, no, i have no idea who to bench either. guess this is more of an observation than question. Just IMHO.

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^^ stormrider, you want seids benched for a "dreadfull handfull of games." im not disagreeing, but that statement could be made about quite a few canes players lately. But other than Staal,and maybe Tanabe, nobody is suggesting who else get benched. And before you ask, no, i have no idea who to bench either. guess this is more of an observation than question. Just IMHO.

I think he is should be in the press box for the way he played recently because it showed an alarming regression from his positive early contributions and he became a real liability. His bad play singlehandedly led to two goals in the Tampa game and one in the ATL game and that's just off the top of my head. Not that D breakdowns he was a part of led to goals, his actual play led directly to goals.

Yes, a few others have had bad games too but before he started getting scratched he was really, really bad. There is inconsistency and there is play so uneven that it will cost you games. That is the difference. He plummeted down the depth chart and it was warranted.

If they go with 6 D men and everyone is healthy I'd sit either Wesley or Hedican. Wesley is giving what he has but at this point is only a PK specialist and Hedican has been horrible.

People can agree or disagree with that assessment but I at least try and give specifics to support my observations. That's why I ask posters for more details because it's easy to say ____ ROCKS or _____ SUCKS but it is much more productive, IMO, to say why.

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You should change the title to "Hurricanes SHOULD be playing". I havent seen them play lately. Sure, they have uniforms on and are skating, but not much else. Maybe they should go to Hurricanes U and bring a pad and paper for note. They just dont look like they have ANY confidence at all, in themselves or each other. I just hope something changes in their moods before its too late. ps...i do agree seids should be playing. cant be any worse than what ive seen lately.

haha that made me laugh!! haha

ya, i agree; seids should be playing; why isn't he?? we need d-men right now!!

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Maybe those who go to more practices can let the rest of us know more details about what happens regularly at them, but I was at one practice last week (the day the Canes got Carter, actually - found out shortly after the practice ended).

Anyways, Seidenberg was practicing as a forward that day. I remember that specifically because he took a couple of really hard shots on goal in front of where I was watching and so he stood out to me. The only shots from any of the Canes that made me stop and say "whoah..."

If he's been practicing more as a forward regularly, though, then that's your answer of why he hasn't been playing on D. It can be tough to be teaching a guy to play a different position and then at game time suddenly tell them to forget all that stuff and play their old position.

Maybe after they got Carter they switched him back to practicing with the D, and so we might see him in the not too distant future? Does anyone know?

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TH.....does that mean you'd give up Wanabe for the Iceberg???????.......(Hell musta froze over)!!!

Just kidding you......

HAHAH No, actually I kinda agree with CaniacfromApp...I think Wasabi would make a decent forward. BUT he has been working his butt off and deserves to play. There ARE other dmen that I would bench to have iceberg play though

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Maybe those who go to more practices can let the rest of us know more details about what happens regularly at them, but I was at one practice last week (the day the Canes got Carter, actually - found out shortly after the practice ended).

Anyways, Seidenberg was practicing as a forward that day. I remember that specifically because he took a couple of really hard shots on goal in front of where I was watching and so he stood out to me. The only shots from any of the Canes that made me stop and say "whoah..."

If he's been practicing more as a forward regularly, though, then that's your answer of why he hasn't been playing on D. It can be tough to be teaching a guy to play a different position and then at game time suddenly tell them to forget all that stuff and play their old position.

Maybe after they got Carter they switched him back to practicing with the D, and so we might see him in the not too distant future? Does anyone know?

He went to the press box initially for his poor defense and it was before he was used at forward and while exclusively practicing on the blue line.

He sat for a while and then was used in a pinch at forward when Cole and Stillman were both hurt. That was only for the couple of games when "8 d men" were used while he sparing was used as a forward. Then when Carter came over he went back to the press box.

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Just pulling your chain....and I agree, Hedican is playing hurt and needs some healing time. Tanabe just might be a better winger than a Dman....takes some time to tranfer the skill to a different position tho. And Dennis is absolutely NOT a forward!!!

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you know, Hedicans bad puck handling skills makes me wonder if he has something phyiscally wrong LOL I mean, getting your coconut smacked for so many years has got to do something to your hand/eye coordination

:mrgreen:

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you know, Hedicans bad puck handling skills makes me wonder if he has something phyiscally wrong LOL I mean, getting your coconut smacked for so many years has got to do something to your hand/eye coordination

:mrgreen:

As terrible as that is, that's f***ing hilarious.

:lol:

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Why should they play Siedenburg? Who would you take out? Tanbe (one our best D-man right now), Commie, Wes, Wallin, Gleason, Kaberle? Right nw the Canes are playing 6 D-men because Hedican is injured so you cant take him out....The Canes dont need Seidenburg, plain and simple. Beside, he doesn't do anything that the other scratched D can't do.

And after the Canes just crushed Jersey, they won't put him in after they played a great defensive game by only allowing 20 shots.

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you know, Hedicans bad puck handling skills makes me wonder if he has something phyiscally wrong LOL I mean, getting your coconut smacked for so many years has got to do something to your hand/eye coordination

:mrgreen:

oh my gosh.

that is soo funny.

hahah :D

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Why should they play Siedenburg? Who would you take out? Tanbe (one our best D-man right now), Commie, Wes, Wallin, Gleason, Kaberle? Right nw the Canes are playing 6 D-men because Hedican is injured so you cant take him out....The Canes dont need Seidenburg, plain and simple. Beside, he doesn't do anything that the other scratched D can't do.

And after the Canes just crushed Jersey, they won't put him in after they played a great defensive game by only allowing 20 shots.

i agree 100% :D

the D men did great today.

we dont need him to mess things up.

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