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Speaking of this diving to block shots.....take Canes vs Bruins....

Erik Cole goes down to block a shot. Gets up, outskates the Bruin player to the puck, and scores on Thomas.

So Cole go downs and is still able to score. That play is actually on youtube. When I get home I'll have to look for it and post it.

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Speaking of this diving to block shots.....take Canes vs Bruins....

Erik Cole goes down to block a shot. Gets up, outskates the Bruin player to the puck, and scores on Thomas.

Completely different situation than the what was being discussed. Blocking a wrister near the top of the circles by a high forward means you have help down low so it's hardly risky.

Diving on the PP solely to keep the puck in the zone with a forward on the other point is a very risky play and not one you see unless there are extenuating circumstances like time running out in the game or period. You make yourself vulnerable to a counter attack if you can't cleanly control it and it means you have a forward possibly going the other way unimpeded or possibly with only your forward-point trying to make a defensive play. Going to a knee to cradle the puck so it doesn't bounce away is a sound play but diving is not.

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What I really don't see anyone talking about is the age of our defense. Except for Ward, we now have back pretty much the same defense with which we won the Cup. Yes we picked up Sidenberg and Gleason. But the remainder of the defense is the same as 2 years ago and, 2years older. Will Wesly, and Hedican have the speed we need? How about Nick -- is he still as strong as we need? Is Commodore still where he needs to be in terms of speed and strength? I think the thoughts need to be about who are the next good young defense men we will get and how do we build that unit for the next 3-5 years.

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I understand you have concerns with the age of Wesley and Hedican but Commodore and Wallin are hardly at an age to be slowing down. Yes, they're two years old than when we won the cup but at their age that means two years to get better, not slow down.

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I understand you have concerns with the age of Wesley and Hedican but Commodore and Wallin are hardly at an age to be slowing down. Yes, they're two years old than when we won the cup but at their age that means two years to get better, not slow down.

I agree and Wesley at this stage of his career sees limited minutes in the last pair. He is most valuable as a PK specialist where speed isn't nearly as important as positioning, anticipation, playing angles, collapsing down low and giving up the body. He is still very good in all those areas.

Hedican's issues are health and decision-making not speed. Commodore will never be fast but he does get sloppy with his positioning and seems to want to pinch at inopportune times. Lavi gives them the green light to do so but only when the situation warrants and he just gets too aggressive at times and doesn't get back. The positioning can improve but his mental approach to the game, including taking dumb penalties, still needs work. Wallin is relatively solid but needs to stay healthy.

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Speaking of this diving to block shots.....take Canes vs Bruins....

Erik Cole goes down to block a shot. Gets up, outskates the Bruin player to the puck, and scores on Thomas.

Completely different situation than the what was being discussed. Blocking a wrister near the top of the circles by a high forward means you have help down low so it's hardly risky.

Diving on the PP solely to keep the puck in the zone with a forward on the other point is a very risky play and not one you see unless there are extenuating circumstances like time running out in the game or period. You make yourself vulnerable to a counter attack if you can't cleanly control it and it means you have a forward possibly going the other way unimpeded or possibly with only your forward-point trying to make a defensive play. Going to a knee to cradle the puck so it doesn't bounce away is a sound play but diving is not.

I wasn't comparing the two nor did I agree with one over the other. I just simply remembered this play reading the debate going on here and I think its a pretty cool play. Only reason why I brought it up. Wasn't comparing cause I simply don't remember this play which is being debating, I just liked that Cole play.

EDIT: Here's the play i'm referring to in my original post if anyone wants to see. Its one of my favorite Cole plays.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYN75dVFfiw

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Speaking of this diving to block shots.....take Canes vs Bruins....

Erik Cole goes down to block a shot. Gets up, outskates the Bruin player to the puck, and scores on Thomas.

Completely different situation than the what was being discussed. Blocking a wrister near the top of the circles by a high forward means you have help down low so it's hardly risky.

Diving on the PP solely to keep the puck in the zone with a forward on the other point is a very risky play and not one you see unless there are extenuating circumstances like time running out in the game or period. You make yourself vulnerable to a counter attack if you can't cleanly control it and it means you have a forward possibly going the other way unimpeded or possibly with only your forward-point trying to make a defensive play. Going to a knee to cradle the puck so it doesn't bounce away is a sound play but diving is not.

I wasn't comparing the two nor did I agree with one over the other. I just simply remembered this play reading the debate going on here and I think its a pretty cool play. Only reason why I brought it up. Wasn't comparing cause I simply don't remember this play which is being debating, I just liked that Cole play.

EDIT: Here's the play i'm referring to in my original post if anyone wants to see. Its one of my favorite Cole plays.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYN75dVFfiw''>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYN75dVFfiw' target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYN75dVFfiw[/post]

Ok, I gotcha. I misread your post obviously. It's always a good play to review though. Unless you are a Bruin fan. ;)

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i THINK OUR DEFENSE IS GOOD. BUT DON'T WANT TO GIVE UP wALLIN. hE IS GREAT FOR OUR TEAM. bUT WE ARE AT THE LIMIT EVEN IF WE WANT TO SPICE IT UP. I AGREE ADDING CULLEN AND HAMILTON GOOD OFFENSE CREATES GOOD DEFENSE MIXED IN WITH OUR DEFENSIVE GUYS. CULLEN WAS PRETTY AGGRESSIVE WHEN HE WAS WITH THE TEAM BEFORE. HOPEFULLY HE'S AT HOME AND WILL HELP MOTIVATE HIS QUICKNESS AND SKILLS. GO CANIACS LOVE THOSE CAROLINA HURRICANES.

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