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Corvo, 30, has played in 51 of the Senators' 56 games this season and ranks first among team defensemen with 15 power-play points (one goal and 14 assists). Among Ottawa defensemen, Corvo ranks second in points (27) and assists (21), is tied for second with six goals and is fourth with a plus-7 plus/minus rating, while averaging 17:41 of ice time per game.

Corvo's 27 points this season rank him tied 23rd among all NHL defensemen in scoring. The Oak Park, Ill., native is in his ninth professional season.

And this was a bad move?

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i agree with your assesment. Corvo is Absolutely Terribad in our zone. Turn over after turn over. But on the PP he is lights out. He has a disgustingly accurate shot and its fast too.

Eaves is injured ALOT. He is made of glass it seems. But the skillz are their for sure. Murray did a good job coaching him.

Stillman has been MIA for a good part of the season but maybe this move will spark him. Commodore can go either way, some nights he's on and other nights his play is costly. Maybe a change of scenery will be good for all involved.

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i agree with your assesment. Corvo is Absolutely Terribad in our zone. Turn over after turn over. But on the PP he is lights out. He has a disgustingly accurate shot and its fast too.

Eaves is injured ALOT. He is made of glass it seems. But the skillz are their for sure. Murray did a good job coaching him.

Stillman has been MIA for a good part of the season but maybe this move will spark him. Commodore can go either way, some nights he's on and other nights his play is costly. Maybe a change of scenery will be good for all involved.

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Good luck finding a taker

We need to rid ourselves of Kaberle, Wallin, and Hedican before next season starts. I don't care how we do it, but those three need to go. Only way I see Wallin or Kaberle is in a trade where we just throw them into the mix without asking for anything else in return. Like a trade that includes Erik Cole, but you have to take one of those two to get him...

Now you wanna know a team that might be ripe for the Erik Cole taking? Philadelphia. They just lost Gagne to his third concussion of the season. This has got Eric Lindros Jr written all over it. Plus, they've already shown they're interested in taking Wallin off our hands. Plus, if they end up getting Forsberg, they're saying they are most likely going to have to part ways with Jeff Carter........

Now I'm not sayin... I'm just sayin...

1. Hedican will probally retire.

2. Why do you so desperately want Cole gone? He's one of the few guys on our team whose trying to win. His drop in production is due to the fact that he broke his neck. Its gonna take a little more time to get to the level he was at in 06, but he'll get there. Like we saw in Washington, he still has the speed and grit to get it done, he just has to keep working at it.

3. I agree that Wallin has to go unless he starts playing a lot better.

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And this was a bad move?

Its a good move for us but unfortuntely leaves us with a hole on D again. I see another trade coming.....

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And this was a bad move?

Its a good move for us but unfortuntely leaves us with a hole on D again. I see another trade coming.....

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This is a statement trade. Here we have Commodore, whose red locks were THE RAGE during the Cup run, and Stillman, who obviously wanted to stay in Carolina. These guys are gone. The statement to the rest of the team should be apparent: if two of the guys who helped define Hurricane Hockey are traded, then anyone else is also on the block. Pick up your game or pick up your gear.

Interesting to see the comments on Corvo. The guy is a headcase, but he may add just enough of the "mental" to give this team an edge, something we've been lacking on a consistent basis.

Maybe Eaves isn't top grade material, but getting another young gun while letting loose one of our older forwards looks like a good deal to me. Stilly can probably help Ottawa get back to the Cup, given his experience. I hope Eaves can contribute to the Canes future.

I'd say the deal favors Ottawa in the short-term: but that's exactly why they made the deal. They're looking to win the Cup this year.

Commodore was gone at season's end anyway, so we locked up a defenseman for another season by getting Corvo here... and now he'll get some tutelage from Wesley.

This could be a long-term gain for the Canes from a personnel perspective... and a short-term gain if the rest of the Canes get the message.

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Well at least Corvo has got the size to go along with the terminator stare at the tats - Does anyone else on the team have body modifications? I myself have ten 1/4 sleeve on the left arm and I didn't wuss out and get a girlie barbwire job, several on my back, both calves, right arm and my right thigh is completely covered - So in other words freak shows are welcome in my neighborhood

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In case anyone wondered why I referred to Corvo as a freakshow...

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I'm thinking he won't be getting his own figurine anytime soon. ;)

Have to look past the INK,which is some nice work,not freakish at all,how about the shape he is in,thats whats impressive.Alot of muscle to throw around!!

GOT INK????IF NOT GET SOME!!! B)

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Its a good move for us but unfortuntely leaves us with a hole on D again. I see another trade coming.....

I hate to be the one to say it, but Commie hasn't been great defensively as of late. The only thing he has been awesome at this season is taking penalties at the worst time.

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I'd also like to say that by giving away Stillman we should've 1) at least gotten someone better out of the deal, like Vermette or 2) taken Eaves but also have acquired a pick...preferably in the first 3 rounds. I mean, we've giving away a 30 goal scorer here...for what exactly? Eaves is good but we don't know what he really is...I guess we'll see soon enough though. Commie for Corvo seemed equal to me.

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1. Hedican will probally retire.

2. Why do you so desperately want Cole gone? He's one of the few guys on our team whose trying to win. His drop in production is due to the fact that he broke his neck. Its gonna take a little more time to get to the level he was at in 06, but he'll get there. Like we saw in Washington, he still has the speed and grit to get it done, he just has to keep working at it.

3. I agree that Wallin has to go unless he starts playing a lot better.

why do I want to see us trade cole? Well that's because he's an injury prone inconsistent player who is always one hit away from a career ending injury that would count against our cap till his contract is up who still has enough upside that a team is still willing to give up a lot to get him.

I'd much rather trade Cole for a player who might not be as talented but brings his A or B game every night who won't spend long periods of time on the IR every year than to have someone who will be a game changer once every ten or more games who is a liability every other game.

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Corvo is a defensive liability, and only has a good +/- because he played on the Sens...imo of course.
I've seen the knock on Corvo's +/- several times in this thread, all saying that it is inflated because he's with Ottawa. Perhaps. But, Corvo also had a +16 with LA in 05/06...was that due to the great Kings team? To refresh, those Kings missed the playoffs and gave up 21 more goals than they scored. Corvo was also a +7 with a mediocre Kings team in 03/04 and has ALWAYS had a plus +/- rating in every NHL and AHL season he's played. Corvo may not be a defensive wiz, but you will need to find another statistic to make that point....

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TATs rock! I'm in the market for another one. I need something to add to my bat! I do like my good fairy and evil fairy that sits on both shoulders. My skull tat rocks though!!! I will say this, he looks to be in good shape! I just hope he can help out with the pp that they are hoping. Tats or no tats, welcome to the team guys!!!! At least they will be conversation pieces at Casino Night! :lol:

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I hate to be the one to say it, but Commie hasn't been great defensively as of late. The only thing he has been awesome at this season is taking penalties at the worst time.

That depends which night you're watching ;) . We'll still need to replace some grit on the blue line and hopefully now not be so worried about finding a puck moving dman should make the next trade a little easier to find....hopefully.

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I hate to be the one to say it, but Commie hasn't been great defensively as of late. The only thing he has been awesome at this season is taking penalties at the worst time.

That depends which night you're watching ;) . We'll still need to replace some grit on the blue line and hopefully now not be so worried about finding a puck moving dman should make the next trade a little easier to find....hopefully.

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I've seen the knock on Corvo's +/- several times in this thread, all saying that it is inflated because he's with Ottawa. Perhaps. But, Corvo also had a +16 with LA in 05/06...was that due to the great Kings team? To refresh, those Kings missed the playoffs and gave up 21 more goals than they scored. Corvo was also a +7 with a mediocre Kings team in 03/04 and has ALWAYS had a plus +/- rating in every NHL and AHL season he's played. Corvo may not be a defensive wiz, but you will need to find another statistic to make that point....

His +/- is also higher because he played on the 3rd pairing with Richardson often playing against the other teams 3rd and 4th line, not exactly offensive juggernaut lines. Like Preissing for us last year, the stats dont tell the whole story.

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I've seen the knock on Corvo's +/- several times in this thread, all saying that it is inflated because he's with Ottawa. Perhaps. But, Corvo also had a +16 with LA in 05/06...was that due to the great Kings team? To refresh, those Kings missed the playoffs and gave up 21 more goals than they scored. Corvo was also a +7 with a mediocre Kings team in 03/04 and has ALWAYS had a plus +/- rating in every NHL and AHL season he's played. Corvo may not be a defensive wiz, but you will need to find another statistic to make that point....

Maybe, just maybe he scores and/or assists enough that it inflates his +/-. :lol: would be the ideal thing to happen.

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I loved the comment that was made on the radio on 99.9 as they were discussing this trade.

This is professional hockey, this is not a friendship convention. The guys are here in town to win games and they weren't, so they were traded.

In fact, if you want my honest opinion, with what both Stillman and Commodore did this season, we're lucky to have gotten anything of value for them in a trade. Stillman is more injury prone than Eric Lindros' brain and Commodore has been such a liability I'm surprised anyone wanted him from us. Heck, getting an offensive d-man from this trade, no matter how bad he is in the defensive zone, is an upgrade. Commodore was by no means a shutdown d-man and he never got on the scoreboard. Getting someone who will score, now thats a plus... And at least Corvo will be able to run down someone if he gets caught out of position, when Commodore pinched in it was a guaranteed odd man rush for the opponent

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We're giving up two guys that can't skate for two guys that can. Commodore is average, but he will provide grit for Ottawa . Stillman will be fine if he's paired with two good skaters.

I think the change of scenery will help all players involved... also of note, Corvo gives the Canes their 4th American-born defenseman (Hedican, Gleason, Tanabe). I don't know why, but I find that pretty cool.

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Why not Kaberle? Please someone make a good argument for keeping Frank. While I see him improving ever so slightly, his play is junior league level at best. Why not get his salary off the books now and use the little bit of money to sure up the UFA we want around next season?

I am okay with the trade for the most part, but Eaves is very injury prone and has not been able to do much this season due to those injuries. Risky if you ask me. Do you sign him again to a long term deal with the injuries he has faced up until now being as young as he is?

-Hexzero

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Why not Kaberle? Please someone make a good argument for keeping Frank. While I see him improving ever so slightly, his play is junior league level at best. Why not get his salary off the books now and use the little bit of money to sure up the UFA we want around next season?

I am okay with the trade for the most part, but Eaves is very injury prone and has not been able to do much this season due to those injuries. Risky if you ask me. Do you sign him again to a long term deal with the injuries he has faced up until now being as young as he is?

-Hexzero

Because Ottawa was looking for a gritty defenseman, and Kaberle isn't? :rolleyes:

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If anything, it shows me that we're actually trying this season. Carolina's main concern has been a puck-moving defensemen and a special team fix. We got both of those in 2 players. And all we gave up were two struggling rentals.

That's actually a really good assessment of the trade. We are getting rid of some dead weight (who knows if Stillman can get healthy over the offseason he can come back next year) and getting a guy who addresses one of our two major needs. We needed one puck moving D-man and two other good d-men for next year. This is Commodore for Corvo pretty much and Commodore isn't the best on the back end either, Corvo shouldn't be too much of a downgrade. I'm really getting tired ot Commodore's penalties.

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