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I actually think a 1-year deal might be the safest bet. Ward is up there in age, and he had a plethora of injuries this year.

Concussion, ankle injury, broken left foot, bruised right foot, knee injury, and the whole broken back thing. A player that injury -prone and that old should be handled carefully, contract-wise.

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Concussion, ankle injury, broken left foot, bruised right foot, knee injury, and the whole broken back thing. A player that injury -prone and that old should be handled carefully, contract-wise.

Yes and so does 3/4 of good D-man in the NHL have suffered at one time or another. I think it's hillarious that people here think that we can just make any offer to Ward and because it would be here in NC he'll just take it. Dream on. Ward is in the driver's seat.

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Yes and so does 3/4 of good D-man in the NHL have suffered at one time or another. I think it's hillarious that people here think that we can just make any offer to Ward and because it would be here in NC he'll just take it. Dream on. Ward is in the driver's seat.

True, but how many have had all those in the last season?

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Concussion, ankle injury, broken left foot, bruised right foot, knee injury, and the whole broken back thing. A player that injury -prone and that old should be handled carefully, contract-wise.

In that case, it sounds like he'd fit right in with the rest of the lineup. I kid. But honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing him signed for 2 years, anything more than that is a gamble and I agree that a 1 year contract would be insulting.

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I actually think a 1-year deal might be the safest bet. Ward is up there in age, and he had a plethora of injuries this year.

Concussion, ankle injury, broken left foot, bruised right foot, knee injury, and the whole broken back thing. A player that injury -prone and that old should be handled carefully, contract-wise.

Him and Peter Forsberg should start an injury support group or something. Geez! :lol:

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Well, for one thing, Ward kept his house in Cary and wants to retire here (plus his home in Canada). He and his wife like it here. We lost him to NY for not so much money, and when he got to NY he found out that what it cost him to live there almost evened out his salary there with what he would have been making here when you factor in housing costs (he rented there) and other cost-of-living considerations. That being said, I don't know what the difference might be between his Boston salary and what JR would offer here, but I suspect he would be willing to sign for a Raleigh discount.

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Well just in case someone from Boston is looking on here,,,,we have this great puck moving defenseman with an awsome shot,playes the body like no-one else,is positionaly sound and never gets hurt!!!!!He will drop the gloves to defend his team-mates, and never takes stupid penalties!!!!Just call JR and ask for FRANK KABERLE, HE IS THE MAN!!!HE WILL TAKE YOU ALL THE WAY!!!His #5 will look great in Boston!!! ;);););)

See i can be positive about Kabs!!!! :lol:

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I actually think a 1-year deal might be the safest bet. Ward is up there in age, and he had a plethora of injuries this year.

Concussion, ankle injury, broken left foot, bruised right foot, knee injury, and the whole broken back thing. A player that injury -prone and that old should be handled carefully, contract-wise.

What broken back thing? Only Bruin I knew with a broken back was Marc Savard, but it was a minor fracture of the facet which healed in a couple of weeks. Maybe I missed something? His knee injury was a knee on knee injury that he had little control over.

The only injury that would concern me about Ward's is his concussions. He's had three that I know of and since they are cumulative, one more could prove to be fairly bad news for him and his family.

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I actually think a 1-year deal might be the safest bet. Ward is up there in age, and he had a plethora of injuries this year.

Concussion, ankle injury, broken left foot, bruised right foot, knee injury, and the whole broken back thing. A player that injury -prone and that old should be handled carefully, contract-wise.

What broken back thing? Only Bruin I knew with a broken back was Marc Savard, but it was a minor fracture of the facet which healed in a couple of weeks. Maybe I missed something? His knee injury was a knee on knee injury that he had little control over.

The only injury that would concern me about Ward's is his concussions. He's had three that I know of and since they are cumulative, one more could prove to be fairly bad news for him and his family.

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Did I read somewhere on this forum that we were interested in trading for defenseman Dan Hamhuis of Nashville? I wouldn't recommend it...I watched him botch plays way too often here in Nashville this season.

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What broken back thing? Only Bruin I knew with a broken back was Marc Savard, but it was a minor fracture of the facet which healed in a couple of weeks. Maybe I missed something? His knee injury was a knee on knee injury that he had little control over.

The only injury that would concern me about Ward's is his concussions. He's had three that I know of and since they are cumulative, one more could prove to be fairly bad news for him and his family.

Ok, maybe it was Savard. Didn't Ward take a check that basically bent him backwards though? I thought I remembered something aobut him and his back throughout the season.

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Ok, maybe it was Savard. Didn't Ward take a check that basically bent him backwards though? I thought I remembered something aobut him and his back throughout the season.

Maybe you meant when he took a stick to his throat from Sergei Gonchar in Pittsburgh? Also his foot injuries were mainly from blocked shots. He led the Bruins with 119 blocked shots.

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Ok, maybe it was Savard. Didn't Ward take a check that basically bent him backwards though? I thought I remembered something aobut him and his back throughout the season.

Maybe you meant when he took a stick to his throat from Sergei Gonchar in Pittsburgh? Also his foot injuries were mainly from blocked shots. He led the Bruins with 119 blocked shots.

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Indeed. But since it didn't show up in TSN's injury list, I'm assuming he was well enough to play the next game.

He actually came back that same game and played.

When I saw that, I thought he was done. Then here comes #44 back on the ice and I couldn't believe it. Even the announcers were shocked.

Per Spector's looks like Burke could be moving a defenseman for offensive help if Niedermayer returns.

Stephens suggests Burke could shop a defenseman, either Francois Beauchemin, Mathieu Schneider or Sean O'Donnell, for scoring help if Scott Niedermayer decides to return.

Spector's Note: If Niedermayer returns Schneider or Beauchemin would be the most marketable trade candidates, and I suspect it would be the latter who'd be easiest to move due to his age and salary.

I would take Beauchemin.

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I'd like to see a Whitney for Beauchemin trade. If Cole were involved, I would expect another asset from Anaheim as Beauchemin's value should be low after an overall lackluster season compared to his first two years with the Ducks.

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Well just in case someone from Boston is looking on here,,,,we have this great puck moving defenseman with an awsome shot,playes the body like no-one else,is positionaly sound and never gets hurt!!!!!He will drop the gloves to defend his team-mates, and never takes stupid penalties!!!!Just call JR and ask for FRANK KABERLE, HE IS THE MAN!!!HE WILL TAKE YOU ALL THE WAY!!!His #5 will look great in Boston!!! ;);););)

See i can be positive about Kabs!!!! :lol:

Hilarious!

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Enough with the old, injury prone players that we can't rely on to make it through a full season. Aaron Ward turned 35 in January and wants a two-year deal that would take him through age 36 and 37. Did we not just painfully sit through those same years with Bret Hedican? Ward plays a a gritty, shot-blocking style that is very susceptible to injury and it will only get worse at his age.

It's no fluke that we have nonstop injuries year after year. It's due to the over-reliance on older and/or injury prone players. I could have told you at the start of the season that the likes of Hedican, Walker, Wallin, Ladd, Whitney, Cole, etc would all miss significant time. Mix in the usual "fluke" injuries to the more durable players and you've got a recipe for 250-300 man games lost every season.

Besides, Aaron Ward is not the answer to this teams defensive problems. He's a career #4 defensive defenseman and I think people here are overrating him due to the Cup win just like they overrated the likes of Commodore and Kaberle. We need a top-pairing guy or at least a Top 4 guy (or two) who can make an impact at both ends of the ice. Preferably someone not at the end of their career.

If we were to sign Ward, he shouldn't be looked on to fill anything more than the role Wesley has the last few years--#5/6 guy, PK specialist. Giving him a bigger role is only asking for trouble in terms of injuries and on-ice performance. There's a reason why Aaron Ward is a career -41 (and don't blame it on bad teams; Ward was a consistent minus player on the powerhouse Red Wings) and has only finished with a + rating three times in his career...he is slow, makes terrible defensive reads in transition and struggles with moving the puck. He played this season paired with an elite #1 defenseman in Zdeno Chara. We don't have any elite defenseman to pair him with and mask his faults.

We know that Gleason and Corvo will be in the Top 4 next season. Ward doesn't fit with Gleason because they both play very similar styles. Ward doesn't fit with Corvo because they are both right-handed shots and you almost never see those paired together.

And last but not least....we have no money to sign Ward. We are at ~$46M figuring in appropriate raises for our five main RFAs and without two fourth line forwards and a back-up goalie. Kaberle and Wallin are going nowhere because they suck and are overpaid and nobody wants them.

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Enough with the old, injury prone players that we can't rely on to make it through a full season. Aaron Ward turned 35 in January and wants a two-year deal that would take him through age 36 and 37. Did we not just painfully sit through those same years with Bret Hedican? Ward plays a a gritty, shot-blocking style that is very susceptible to injury and it will only get worse at his age.

It's no fluke that we have nonstop injuries year after year. It's due to the over-reliance on older and/or injury prone players. I could have told you at the start of the season that the likes of Hedican, Walker, Wallin, Ladd, Whitney, Cole, etc would all miss significant time. Mix in the usual "fluke" injuries to the more durable players and you've got a recipe for 250-300 man games lost every season.

Besides, Aaron Ward is not the answer to this teams defensive problems. He's a career #4 defensive defenseman and I think people here are overrating him due to the Cup win just like they overrated the likes of Commodore and Kaberle. We need a top-pairing guy or at least a Top 4 guy (or two) who can make an impact at both ends of the ice. Preferably someone not at the end of their career.

If we were to sign Ward, he shouldn't be looked on to fill anything more than the role Wesley has the last few years--#5/6 guy, PK specialist. Giving him a bigger role is only asking for trouble in terms of injuries and on-ice performance. There's a reason why Aaron Ward is a career -41 (and don't blame it on bad teams; Ward was a consistent minus player on the powerhouse Red Wings) and has only finished with a + rating three times in his career...he is slow, makes terrible defensive reads in transition and struggles with moving the puck. He played this season paired with an elite #1 defenseman in Zdeno Chara. We don't have any elite defenseman to pair him with and mask his faults.

We know that Gleason and Corvo will be in the Top 4 next season. Ward doesn't fit with Gleason because they both play very similar styles. Ward doesn't fit with Corvo because they are both right-handed shots and you almost never see those paired together.

And last but not least....we have no money to sign Ward. We are at ~$46M figuring in appropriate raises for our five main RFAs and without two fourth line forwards and a back-up goalie. Kaberle and Wallin are going nowhere because they suck and are overpaid and nobody wants them.

I agree with all of this.

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