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I wonder why we keep guys like Conboy and Gillies and Brookbank in the AHL if we never use them in the NHL. Seems odd to me.

On an AHL level, their job is to protect the young talent we have on the ice and offer leadership. I realize Gillies is not fast, but if we were going to bring up an enforcer type, I still can't understand why it was Brooks in the first place. Trevor Gillies actually wins fights.

As for Mo's philosphy, he let the guys (Jessie Bolurice etc...) fight more than Lavi ever did.

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Just curious, knowing we need goal scorers, who satisfies your size requirement, whos the 6'3" 230 lb sniper youve got *edit* for?

Jagr! :P

Seriously now, I thought we had plenty of goal scorers, the problem is they're not scoring. Some of the reasons for that is that they are too busy picking themselves off the ice after physical contact with bigger players from opposing teams, or that their shots are easily seen by the opposing team's goalies as there's no one on our team who's big enough to stand in front of the goal and provide something resembling a screen. We don't need a sniper, just someone who can play more physical and stand in front of the goal, if that person is 5'5 and 160 lbs and can successfully do it, hey more power to him, I don't have a problem with that.

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So lets look at our D. Under contract next season we have: Pitkanen, Gleason, Wallin, Corvo, Kaberle. As far as I can remember, we don't have any River Rats defense with a one-way next season. So that leaves 5 blueliners under contract. We either dump Kabs or buy him out. So that leaves 4. To fill the other 2-3 slots we have potentially Seidenberg, Babchuk, Rodney. Its my opinion either Babchuk or Seidenberg will therefore get traded before the season ends. We can sign Rodney for half of what the other guys will play for and he has shown just as much improvement in his game as they have this season. Personally, I hope we keep Seidenberg if we can because we need the toughness. Babchuk has really picked up his game lately and could make him valuable as a cheap bottom 4 D-man. What could we get though?

Are Larose's days numbered here? He's clearly going to want more money after his effort this season. Will JR give it to him? Chad clearly has earned a spot on the 3rd line IMO. He has at least 1 to 2 shorthanded breakaways per game now. Playing physical (he was the only guy to take a run at Chara!), got in a fight Thursday evening. And IMO looks like he has finally got some hands. He will never be a finesse player, but his goals are no longer just garbage goals, hes starting to score some pretty ones too. I hope JR keeps him, but seeing how we can be tight with money at times, Larose could become a depth guy for a playoff bound team.

Williams is injured and can't contribute to our playoff push. Could JR trade him for a healthy replacement (who may be injury prone, under performing, or has a slightly less desirable contract) that can help us NOW? I think this is a possibility. This trade would have to be with a team that is clearly out of the playoff run however. That only leaves a handful of teams: Islanders, Tampa, Atlanta, Ottawa, Toronto, possibly Phoenix or Colorado. This one is probably a long shot but its possible.

Eaves could go too. Hes doing everything right but scoring. Compare that with the fact that he has a reasonable contract and he could be valuable to some teams who feel he may do better in their system. The question is, has JR given up on him yet? I don't think so, but its just a thought.

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Maybe we should trade a draft pick for a few bottles of whatever Don Cherry is drinking before he goes on air on Saturday Nights. Then maybe we can make tons of money making a complete fool out of ourselves by not making sense and having the typical human shake their head in confussion after out rant.

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So lets look at our D. Under contract next season we have: Pitkanen, Gleason, Wallin, Corvo, Kaberle. As far as I can remember, we don't have any River Rats defense with a one-way next season. So that leaves 5 blueliners under contract. We either dump Kabs or buy him out. So that leaves 4. To fill the other 2-3 slots we have potentially Seidenberg, Babchuk, Rodney. Its my opinion either Babchuk or Seidenberg will therefore get traded before the season ends. We can sign Rodney for half of what the other guys will play for and he has shown just as much improvement in his game as they have this season. Personally, I hope we keep Seidenberg if we can because we need the toughness. Babchuk has really picked up his game lately and could make him valuable as a cheap bottom 4 D-man. What could we get though?

Regarding D - we keep Gleason, Pitkanen, and Corvo, most def. If I were JR I'd talk to Corvo this summer about contract extension (his contract runs out at the end of next season), see what's up, get a feel if he wants to stay. If he doesn't, we'd probably have to trade him by the trade deadline in 2010. Buy out Wallin's and Kaberle's contract - this 1 is a no brainer IMO. Thank them for the years of service and wish them the best as they return to Sweden and Czech Republic to finish out their careers. Talk to Seidenburg

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i don't know if this has been brought up or not, but i didn't feel like reading through all of the post. anyway, i just read this on tiops.com http://insidepittsburghsports.com/story/nh...eric-cole/7018/

ruutu for eric cole. as much as i like eric cole, and would love to see him back in carolina i do not think it is worth losing ruutu. he has been one of the few good consistent players on the canes this year. just thought i would put this out there, and see what others think.

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I expect atleast one more deal by the deadline to attempt to provide additional depth on offense, perhaps a deal that involves Seidenberg. The Oilers are pretty desperate for defense, so maybe a Seidenberg plus draft pick or prospect for Cole deal is possible. It just depends on how eager they are to get rid of Cole.

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As much as I like Cole I really hope this does not happen... Rutuu is an energy guy, who has brought it all year, every game! He is a hitter and a scrapper a "leave it on the ice" player. We have enough "slumpers" up front and don't need anymore. I don't see where bringing back Cole would help the team.

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Yeah Williams is currently worth something between a case of pucks and a skate sharpening machine.

Do we need a new skate sharpening machine?

What could we get for Williams and Walker? Neither can stay healthy and clearly are not worth what they are paid. On top of being paid to be hurt they are probably driving up the Hurricanes Healthcare cost.

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No Erik cole, not that I don't like the guy...but we can't keep recycling players, he wa snot playing up to his standards here lasts eason, and it was a good move to trade him cause he's struggling in edmonton.

Canes actually just have a lot of offensive holes, they want to a well-balanced offensive team back in 2007-08 to a team with glaring holes. yes, the backend provides more offense, that is an improvement. But J.R. couldn't predict Rod's subpar performance, Williams injury issues, and also scott walker is basically non-existent offensively whether he is injure dor not. Rod and Justin I think were thought of as 30-goal scorers, and 2nd line offensive threats. we know rod is no longer that type of player, Williams hasn't stayed healthy long enough to show any promise of going back to old form.

so canes need more goal scorers who can finish. I mean ho cna finish on this team at forward consistently this season? Whitney and staal that's about it.

However some promise has emerged, Larose is finally starting to score, and has earned a spot as I think a 3rd line player, but due to lack of depth he's on the 2nd line. Also Cullen has improved his finishing ability (and overall play) since he took over rod's spot, and I think he leads the team in shooting %.

staal i think is turning out to be more of a pure goal scorer, and that's fine, he'll be a 40-goal a year type guy probably, every team needs one. Unfortunately he isn't playing with any elite playmakers, I mean samsonov has his moments buts he's a very slow starter out the gate it seems.

Defense I agree is much better overall, but Canes need and elite playmaker on staal's wing, and possibly another 60-point man to put on the 2nd line.

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As much as I like Cole I really hope this does not happen... Rutuu is an energy guy, who has brought it all year, every game! He is a hitter and a scrapper a "leave it on the ice" player. We have enough "slumpers" up front and don't need anymore. I don't see where bringing back Cole would help the team.

Ruutu for Cole is not going to happen. Flat out nuts. Ruutu has 36 points, Cole has 23 points. Ruutu may be our second best all around forward. BTW Pitkanen has more points than Cole.

We need a goal scorer. Cole was that a few years ago, not now. I know JR loves to recycle, but just say no.

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Ruutu for Cole is not going to happen. Flat out nuts. Ruutu has 36 points, Cole has 23 points. Ruutu may be our second best all around forward. BTW Pitkanen has more points than Cole.

We need a goal scorer. Cole was that a few years ago, not now. I know JR loves to recycle, but just say no.

I agree completely, and the interesting part about Cole having less points than Pitkanen is Pitkanen has missed a good 5 or so games due to injury (not sure about Cole but I think he's been healthy). I wonder where Cole will end up since he is a FA and Edmonton will most likely let him walk. I'd assume he'd try to talk JR into resigning him, but I don't see it happening unless he goes really cheap.

And I really hope Eaves can take this opportunity seriously, he has been a bust in a scoring sense but his stats are very confusing. He leads our team with a +8 with only 2 goals and with 3rd/4th line minutes plus some PK time on a 25th ranked PK. If he can find an offensive touch he can be a real asset since he is pretty cheap.

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Ruutu for Cole is not going to happen. Flat out nuts. Ruutu has 36 points, Cole has 23 points. Ruutu may be our second best all around forward. BTW Pitkanen has more points than Cole.

We need a goal scorer. Cole was that a few years ago, not now. I know JR loves to recycle, but just say no.

Cole's contract is for way more money too

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I'd be happy to trade Niclas Wallin of Frank Kaberle for a young stay-at-home D-man with a couple of years experience.

Three words on Wallin - NO TRADE CLAUSE. That means he can't be traded without agree to waive it, he has said NO to that option.

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i don't know if this has been brought up or not, but i didn't feel like reading through all of the post. anyway, i just read this on tiops.com http://insidepittsburghsports.com/story/nhl-hurricanes-bruins-sabres-pursuing-eric-cole/7018/' target="_blank">http://insidepittsburghsports.com/story/nh...eric-cole/7018/[/post]

ruutu for eric cole. as much as i like eric cole, and would love to see him back in carolina i do not think it is worth losing ruutu. he has been one of the few good consistent players on the canes this year. just thought i would put this out there, and see what others think.

I'm one who would love to see Cole back in a Canes sweater. He isn't the same player he was before the injury but he still has speed and grit and would help on the Staal line. He also brings a spirit that has been lacking on the team this year. But I don't know if I would like to see Ruutu go. He has been one of our players that has brought his A game to every game. It also doesn't make sense to me that two bubble teams would swap forwards straight up. There might be more to this than just a rumour but I expect there might be more to this than just a one for one swap.

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i don't know if this has been brought up or not, but i didn't feel like reading through all of the post. anyway, i just read this on tiops.com http://insidepittsburghsports.com/story/nhl-hurricanes-bruins-sabres-pursuing-eric-cole/7018/' target="_blank">http://insidepittsburghsports.com/story/nh...eric-cole/7018/[/post]

ruutu for eric cole. as much as i like eric cole, and would love to see him back in carolina i do not think it is worth losing ruutu. he has been one of the few good consistent players on the canes this year. just thought i would put this out there, and see what others think.

I'm one who would love to see Cole back in a Canes sweater. He isn't the same player he was before the injury but he still has speed and grit and would help on the Staal line. He also brings a spirit that has been lacking on the team this year. But I don't know if I would like to see Ruutu go. He has been one of our players that has brought his A game to every game. It also doesn't make sense to me that two bubble teams would swap forwards straight up. There might be more to this than just a rumour but I expect there might be more to this than just a one for one swap.

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As far as Cole is concerned, everyone has been clammering for more goals scored. As of this morning the stats between Cole and Pitkanen goes like this:

25 D Joni Pitkanen 50 5 19 24 2

26 L Erik Cole 59 14 10 24 -5

Granted Cole has played nine more games than Pitkanen, Pitkanen is a defenseman. Though he is considered a PP specialist, he really hasn't

been lighting the lamp like say Corvo. Points between Cole and Pitkanen are a wash, but Cole has scored more goals and Pitkanen has more assists. One thing I have noticed is that a lot of former Hurricanes players, once they leave the friendly confindes of the RBC, are not as productive. (SEE Cole, Kapanen, O'Neill)

Some of that is it takes time to gel with new line-mates / new team / new system. Cole's #'s are down due to the fact he does not have a

really good playmaking centerman on his line. Over his career here, he has played with the likes of Staal and Brind'Amour.

Though I do not see Cole returning via a trade, it would not surprise me to see him back in the fall, at a possible "hometown discount" contract ladened with

incentives. Afterall, he still has his house here.

I would not be surprised that we do nothing before the trade deadline (other than strengthening our Albany team). Unless the team is going to admit defeat now and not make a playoff push, we are not really buyers or sellers. If a decent deal comes along, the Canes might take a look.

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I think the idea behind the re-acquisition of Cole would be that his production would pick back up once his is back with Staal and, likewise, Staal's production would increase with Cole back on his wing. I don't completely agree with that thought process, but I believe that's what Rutherford has in mind.

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Trade Joni to get Cole back. Here's my reasoning:

Joni doesn't play defense anyway. He dives in to the offensive zone and is late getting back. Cole plays alone, and dives in ahead of the play with that one move he has along the boards. He also is late in getting back.

So Play Cole as a kind-sorta fourth forward with only one defender, because that is what Joni is anyway. :)

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Trade Joni to get Cole back. Here's my reasoning:

Joni doesn't play defense anyway. He dives in to the offensive zone and is late getting back. Cole plays alone, and dives in ahead of the play with that one move he has along the boards. He also is late in getting back.

So Play Cole as a kind-sorta fourth forward with only one defender, because that is what Joni is anyway. :)

I believe that Cole is a UFA,so if we want him back, try to get him in the off season. As far as Pitkanen goes, he has had his moments, but overall I don't think he has been a guy that couldn't be put out as trade bait. I don't think he has been missed these last several games. In fact, the D has been better with him out.

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Trade Joni to get Cole back. Here's my reasoning:

Joni doesn't play defense anyway. He dives in to the offensive zone and is late getting back. Cole plays alone, and dives in ahead of the play with that one move he has along the boards. He also is late in getting back.

So Play Cole as a kind-sorta fourth forward with only one defender, because that is what Joni is anyway. :)

This is some sort of sarcasm, right? Yeah, let's trade our 25-year old #1 defenseman for a 30-year old impending UFA forward. :rolleyes:

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