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Go with what seems to be the NEW key word or phrase of the year!!!

Time for a ""Change""

As I watched the playoffs, there were numerous times Ruutu iced the puck, and then didn't get to get his line off the ice. I don't know if that is just Tripp's thing to point out, or if it is important; I'd like him to stay, and Cole, too. I would like to see some major scoring brought in, though. Who to give up?

I am for a major upgrade in Defense. I like Gleason, Corvo, Pitkanen, and sometimes Wallin. That leave us room to bring up someone, and/or get a blue chip D-man like Pronger. I know, the canes were mad at him from long ago, but maybe they will get him back like they did Cole.

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Long post here but below is a team by team list of UFA's...Have at it!!! This is pre-trade deadline so some of the players have moved but for my $ if we could find a way to land Afinogenov or Kotalik to play on our 1st line, I'd be a happy camper.

Anaheim: - ($786,000 in cap space)

C - Brendan Morrison

RW - Todd Marchant

RW - Rob Niedermayer

C - Samuel Pahlsson

LW - Travis Moen

D - Scott Niedermayer

Atlanta: - ($11,010,000 in cap space)

LW - Marty Reasoner

C - Eric Perrin

D - Mathieu Schnieder

D - Niclas Havelid

Boston: - ($1,838,000 in cap space)

LW - PJ Axelsson

LW - Stephane Yelle

G - Manny Fernandez

G - Tim Thomas

Buffalo: - ($5,787,000 in cap space)

RW - Maxim Afinogenov

C - Tim Connolly

RW - Ales Kotalik

D - Jaroslav Spacek

Carolina: - ($6,091,000 in cap space)

RW - Chad Larose

Calgary: - ($1,556,000 in cap space)

LW - Mike Cammalleri

RW - Todd Bertuzzi

RW - David Moss

D - Adrian Aucoin

Chicago: - ($1,081,000 in cap space)

RW - Martin Havlat

G - Nikolai Khabibulin

Columbus: - ($4,665,000 in cap space)

C - Michael Peca

C - Manny Malhotra

C - Jason Williams

D - Christian Backman

Colorado: - ($3,177,000 in cap space)

C - Joe Sakic

C - Tyler Arnason

RW - Ian Lapperiere

D - Jordan Leopold

G - Andrew Raycroft

Dallas: - ($1,784,000 in cap space)

RW - Jere Lehtinen

LW - Joel Lundqvist

RW - Mark Parrish

D - Daryl Sydor

Detroit: - ($1,229,000 in cap space)

RW - Marian Hossa

RW - Mikael Samuelsson

LW - Johan Franzen

G - Ty Conklin

Edmonton: - ($1,936,000 in cap space)

LW - Erik Cole

G - Dwayne Roloson

Florida: - ($2,089,000 in cap space)

RW - Richard Zednik

RW - Radek Dvorak

LW - Ville Peltonen

D - Jay Bouwmeester

D - Nick Boynton

D - Karlis Skrastins

G - Craig Anderson

Los Angeles: - ($12,463,000 in cap space)

LW - Kyle Calder

C - Derek Armstrong

D - Denis Gauthier

D - Sean O'Donnell

G - Erik Ersberg

Minnesota: - ($2,417,000 in cap space)

RW - Marian Gaborik

LW - Stephane Veilleux

D - Martin Skoula

D - Marc-Andre Bergeron

D - Kurtis Foster

G - Niklas Backstrom

Montreal: - ($824,000 in cap space)

LW - Alex Tanguay

C - Saku Koivu

RW - Alexei Kovalev

RW - Robert Lang

LW - Steve Begin

RW - Tom Kostopoulos

D - Francis Bouillon

D/F - Mathieu Dandeneault

D - Mike Komisarek

D - Patrice Brisebois

Nashville: - ($11,356,000 in cap space)

RW - Steve Sullivan

C - Radek Bonk

LW - Vernon Fiddler

D - Greg DeVries

D - Greg Zanon

D - Ville Koistinen

New Jersey: - ($2,056,000 in cap space)

RW - Brian Gionta

C - John Madden

C - Bobby Holik

C - Mike Rupp

LW - Brendan Shanahan

D - Johnny Oduya

G - Scott Clemmensen

G - Kevin Weekes

New York Islanders: - ($7,862,000 in cap space)

RW - Bill Guerin

C - Doug Weight

C - Mike Comrie

C - Mike Sillinger

D - Thomas Pock

New York Rangers: - ($1,832,000 in cap space)

D - Paul Mara

D - Dmitri Kalinin

Ottawa: - ($3,419,000 in cap space)

RW - Chris Neil

C - Dean McAmmond

D - Filip Kuba

G - Martin Gerber

Philadelphia: - ($2,479,000 in cap space)

RW - Mike Knuble

D - Derian Hatcher

D - Andrew Alberts

D - Ossi Vaananen

G - Martin Biron

G - Antero Niitymaki

Phoenix: - ($10,491,000 in cap space)

C - Steve Reinprecht

D - Derek Morris

D - Ken Klee

G - Mikael Tellqvist

Pittsburgh: - ($4,656,000 in cap space)

RW - Miroslav Satan

RW - Petr Sykora

LW - Ruslan Fedotenko

D - Hal Gill

D - Philippe Boucher

D - Rob Scuderi

San Jose: - ($525,000 in cap space)

RW - Mike Grier

RW - Jeremy Roenick

D - Rob Blake

D - Alexei Semenov

G - Brian Boucher

St. Louis: - ($1,822,000 in cap space)

LW - Keith Tkachuk

C - Andy McDonald

RW - Dan Hinote

LW - Brad Winchester

G - Manny Legace

Tampa Bay: - ($4,897,000 in cap space)

LW - Gary Roberts

RW - Mark Recchi

LW - Matt Pettinger

D - Marek Malik

D - Cory Murphy

Toronto: - ($8,768,000 in cap space)

C - Nik Antropov

C - Dominic Moore

LW - Brad May

G - Curtis Joseph

Vancouver: - ($2.803,000 in cap space)

C - Mats Sundin

LW - Daniel Sedin

C - Henrik Sedin

RW - Taylor Pyatt

LW - Alexandre Burrows

D - Mattias Ohlund

D - Rob Davison

G - Jason Labarbera

Washington: - ($1,520,000 in cap space)

C - Sergei Fedorov

C - Viktor Kozlov

G - Brent Johnson

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Good God almighty; no way to Montador or Bouchard. Boston fans COULD NOT stand Montador, and simply put he is/was nothing in that series. What a joke. And Bouchard? One of the smallest players in the league, who without Gaborik this season could not maintain his 60+ scoring pace? Hell flippin' no.

The reason why he couldn't keep up his 60+ scoring pace was because w/o Gaborik, he was expected to score 25-30 goals, which he cannot do he is a pass minded player and had nobody to pass to. But if you look in 07-08 when he had the big name scorer he managed 50 assists. Which is what he would probably put up with Staal or perhaps more because Staal is pretty much always healthy. As for Montador I said he impressed ME.

EDIT: Oh, and another thing, you've got Babchuck on the second D-pairing...LOL. Yes, we all know you love him, but give me a break. It's third line for him or back to Russia, and that's it.

So try again.

:rolleyes: Somebody has to like "love" the guy because its pretty obvious nobody else does. Some fans turn on players pretty quickly on this site. After the Pittsburgh game when he scored in OT, everybody on this forum wanted him back, Heck there was even a thread on how he came a long way. Now barely anybody wants him back and if they do they want him as the 6th-7th Defenseman. People have to remember it was only his 1st playoff, of course he not gonna play as good with loads more pressure.

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my big issue with buying out a player is that the money still counts towards your cap so it doesn't free up room to do anything. So we have another year of Brindy skating into the offensive zone two seconds behind everyone else, GREAT!!

You keep mentioning the salary cap like it is a constraint for this team, it isn't since the budget will be well below the cap. So what really matters is what PK tells JR he can spend, not what the league says. So stuff like a Brind'Amour retirement, which ain't happening, would provide operating space despite counting towards the cap.

That being said since you pay 1/3 of his salary a year for twice the length of the deal when you buy someone out it could help the budget by stretching it out and taking smaller bites out. So in Kaberle's case you can either take 2.2 million out of your budget for one more year or take $733k out of your budget for the next two. In this case given the structure of the other contracts on the team it makes more sense to me to take the one year hit instead of the two but the argument can be made to buy him out.

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Honestly i dont really like jussi at center he is more agressive on the wings in my opinion, I think it shouls be 1st line Staal, 2nd Cullen, 3rd someone we should sign, 4th Brindy/Sutter...

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I'm sure I'm part of the minority when I say, Maurice shouldn't be back... but I'm use to that.

Ruutu > Cole, everyday of the week. You know what the difference is? Ruutu doesn't slow down going into the defensive zone, he doesn't turn the puck over near as much as Cole does, he had more points, and made $1.75 million less than Cole. Once the shock of Cole's trade wore off, he was below average most nights. Where's all the "Staal needs Cole" comments now? It's more like.... Cole needs Staal...

Do you people really think Cole is going to take a pay cut from $4 mill, to $2 mill or so? Naive. Cole can get a contract somewhere else, and I hope he does.

Why on earth would they trade their leading scorer in Whitney? Just doesn't make sense...

If Eaves could get out of his checking winger role, he may produce more. Most guys on the team say he's got the best release on the team... I think the team should stick with him. There were players making a lot more, doing less.... (Brindy, Sammy, Cole) ... Eaves hasn't hurt his team...

How many times do we have to go over the Kaberle thing? JR CANNOT TRADE HIM! He tried, several times. Tried waiving him, nothing worked. He's got one more year...saving 730k isn't worth the headache of buying someone out. Oh, BTW Kaberle > Seidenberg.

I think it would be a bad idea to move one of the more mobile d-men the Canes have, Corvo. The Canes couldn't keep up with Pitt as it is... take Corvo out and they really get skated circles around.

Seidenberg's not fast, not a great puckhandler, and got lucky more times than not with his postseason offensive contributions.

I like Rosie as much as the next guy.... but I can't see paying him $2.2 mill, not with the other contracts the Canes have. To give him that kinda money, they'd have to move someone else. I'm sorry, but I think Matt Cullen is our most valuable trade asset.

Babchuk's 35 points was a steal for $1 mill.... remember, it was his first postseason appearence. And he really wasn't that bad until Boston exploited him... most of his problems were confidence related.

Camalleri isn't a top line guy, IMO. J.R has NEVER brought it that REALLY BIG TIME SCORER. Staal needs a linemate that is as much a threat as he is.

Some names available... Gaborik, Sedin (I'm not a big Sedin twins fan... but I must admit Sedins would add offense) Tanguay, Tkachuk, Zednik, Shannahan, Afinogenov, Marian Hossa, Kovalev, and Satan, that's about it for scorers... I really wish The Canes would have kept O'Sullivan, instead of rolling the 3-way deal.

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I'm sure I'm part of the minority when I say, Maurice shouldn't be back... but I'm use to that.

Ruutu > Cole, everyday of the week. You know what the difference is? Ruutu doesn't slow down going into the defensive zone, he doesn't turn the puck over near as much as Cole does, he had more points, and made $1.75 million less than Cole. Once the shock of Cole's trade wore off, he was below average most nights. Where's all the "Staal needs Cole" comments now? It's more like.... Cole needs Staal...

Do you people really think Cole is going to take a pay cut from $4 mill, to $2 mill or so? Naive. Cole can get a contract somewhere else, and I hope he does.

Why on earth would they trade their leading scorer in Whitney? Just doesn't make sense...

If Eaves could get out of his checking winger role, he may produce more. Most guys on the team say he's got the best release on the team... I think the team should stick with him. There were players making a lot more, doing less.... (Brindy, Sammy, Cole) ... Eaves hasn't hurt his team...

How many times do we have to go over the Kaberle thing? JR CANNOT TRADE HIM! He tried, several times. Tried waiving him, nothing worked. He's got one more year...saving 730k isn't worth the headache of buying someone out. Oh, BTW Kaberle > Seidenberg.

I think it would be a bad idea to move one of the more mobile d-men the Canes have, Corvo. The Canes couldn't keep up with Pitt as it is... take Corvo out and they really get skated circles around.

Seidenberg's not fast, not a great puckhandler, and got lucky more times than not with his postseason offensive contributions.

I like Rosie as much as the next guy.... but I can't see paying him $2.2 mill, not with the other contracts the Canes have. To give him that kinda money, they'd have to move someone else. I'm sorry, but I think Matt Cullen is our most valuable trade asset.

Babchuk's 35 points was a steal for $1 mill.... remember, it was his first postseason appearance. And he really wasn't that bad until Boston exploited him... most of his problems were confidence related.

Camalleri isn't a top line guy, IMO. J.R has NEVER brought it that REALLY BIG TIME SCORER. Staal needs a linemate that is as much a threat as he is.

Some names available... Gaborik, Sedin (I'm not a big Sedin twins fan... but I must admit Sedins would add offense) Tanguay, Tkachuk, Zednik, Shannahan, Afinogenov, Marian Hossa, Kovalev, and Satan, that's about it for scorers... I really wish The Canes would have kept O'Sullivan, instead of rolling the 3-way deal.

I am with you on Maurice but don't see that happening, Mo and JR are having a honeymoon.

Do you really think there is another club that will offer Cole tons of money?? Especially given the year he has had. get real. i think he takes a pay cut in exchange for contract length/NTC.

Rosie will get a raise but it won't be $2.2mil but it will be a nice bump from $875k.

In Babs case all we have to do is tender an offer, unless someone puts in an offer sheet then he has two choices 1) accept it, or 2)go back to russia. O'Sullivan would not have played here, do some research as to why.

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ok yeah Whitney cant go anywere! One because yeah hes the leading scorer two years running i think, and two because he has a year left on his no trade contract also yeah if eaves doesnt shape up he needs to move on along with babs

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ok yeah Whitney cant go anywere! One because yeah hes the leading scorer two years running i think, and two because he has a year left on his no trade contract also yeah if eaves doesnt shape up he needs to move on along with babs

we will end up keeping babs, as far as I know Whitney does not have a NTC, eaves might make good trade bait.

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This is hilarious. The Whitney guy doesn't want Ray to go. The Babs guy doesn't want Babs to go.

GM's don't/can't operate that way. Take the emotion out of it and make the deal that is the best for the team. Ruutu is my guy, but if an offer is made and another team tops it and we get compensation, well that's the way the game goes.

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Its true I dont want Whitney to go but my reasons are still solid, leading scorer and as far as i know he does have a NTC alon with Walker and Walin

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Question, what does an Restricted Free Agent with no arbitration rights mean? Does that mean we get no compensation if another team makes an offer sheet and we don't match?

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Question, what does an Restricted Free Agent with no arbitration rights mean? Does that mean we get no compensation if another team makes an offer sheet and we don't match?

No arbitration rights means he can't take the team to arbitration if he doesn't like the contract offer, have an arbitrator decide a deal and then the Canes can either accept it or walk away.

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Question, what does an Restricted Free Agent with no arbitration rights mean? Does that mean we get no compensation if another team makes an offer sheet and we don't match?

if another team puts in an offer sheet we can match or take draft picks. the no arbitration rights means say we offer babs $1.4mil, if he had arbitration rights he could take the team to arbitration and state his case and possibly get more $$$. because he doesn't have those rights his choice is to take our offer or play in Russia. there are rules so that a player doesn't get low balled but in his case i think it is the prior year plus 10-15%.

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Long post here but below is a team by team list of UFA's...Have at it!!! This is pre-trade deadline so some of the players have moved but for my $ if we could find a way to land Afinogenov or Kotalik to play on our 1st line, I'd be a happy camper.

I would be OK with Afinogenov, but 2 things he might want more $$$ than he's worth. Plus he's not really a 1st line winger. As for Kotalik he is a 3rd liner at best.

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nhl players with no trade clauses

Apparently, Ray has a NTC. Doesn't mean he couldn't be traded, but he would have to agree. If you look at the list though it doesn't look like JR has been as bad about giving them as some have complained. A NTC is just another bargaining tool. For a team with a smaller checkbook, it works well in lieu of money.

My only problem is long term contracts with a NTC. It can make for a bad marriage if the honeymoon takes a bad turn. If I have any problem with what JR has done, it isn't with NTC's. My problem would be the length of some of the contracts for some of the players who are a little long in the tooth. It can work out great but it can bite you in the old southern region too.

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If Cole is persona non grata, WHY IN THE WORLD would you want Max Afinagenov???? The rationale escapes me.

if another team puts in an offer sheet we can match or take draft picks. the no arbitration rights means say we offer babs $1.4mil, if he had arbitration rights he could take the team to arbitration and state his case and possibly get more $$$. because he doesn't have those rights his choice is to take our offer or play in Russia. there are rules so that a player doesn't get low balled but in his case i think it is the prior year plus 10-15%.

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http://www.nhlscap.com/no_trade.htm' target="_blank">nhl players with no trade clauses[/post]

Apparently, Ray has a NTC. Doesn't mean he couldn't be traded, but he would have to agree. If you look at the list though it doesn't look like JR has been as bad about giving them as some have complained. A NTC is just another bargaining tool. For a team with a smaller checkbook, it works well in lieu of money.

My only problem is long term contracts with a NTC. It can make for a bad marriage if the honeymoon takes a bad turn. If I have any problem with what JR has done, it isn't with NTC's. My problem would be the length of some of the contracts for some of the players who are a little long in the tooth. It can work out great but it can bite you in the old southern region too.

Frank Kaberle has a no-trade clause? :o

But NTC's are misleading, some teams like the Avs with John-Michael Liles not give players full NTC's. Just partial ones.

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Question, what does an Restricted Free Agent with no arbitration rights mean? Does that mean we get no compensation if another team makes an offer sheet and we don't match?

Aa I understand it, it means that he takes the team offer or goes back to Russia to play for another year.

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I really trust JR to do the right things. I would like to know what Gaborik's value is right now though. I would think slightly lower due to his injury problems. We were mention to be one of the rumored teams that were after Gaborik this past trade deadline. If Gabs has gotten past injury problems, theres our number 1 winger to go with Staal. He's really fast, he isn't small (6'1) and we have heard quite a few times of the trouble the Wild franchise has had re-signing him AND Gaborik has said he wants to play on a more offensive team.

It would really be helpful if we were closer to the off-season and had a good idea of what to expect. Please note, I don't expect us to get a big name player like Gaborik.

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I have a few things I think the team needs.

1) A strong defenseman like Gleason who can play very solid D and lead our unit. Of our 7 D-men in the playoffs 4 of them were offensive and Kabs/Babs didn't do anything but take up space.

2) Either a first line winger who can score 30, or a second line center to score around 30 and move Jussi to wing.

We have a few AHL/junior guys who could come in and do something next year in the following guys:

Boychuck, Bowman, Sutter, Rodney, Borer and Carson. I wouldn't mind seeing JR move one of these defenders into our line up to fill our defensive needs at first because I think our offense would be straight up nasty if we can get some of that depth back with someone to take pressure off Staal by scoring at the 2nd line center or winger who can score goals with him like Cole was in '06. I think a 2nd line Center may be the more pressing need considering our depth at wing in the organization.

I like Cole a lot, but I'm not interested in investing another 2 million into a guy who is proven to be horribly inconsistent since his neck injury when this team needs consistency on each end.

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If Eaves could get out of his checking winger role, he may produce more. Most guys on the team say he's got the best release on the team... I think the team should stick with him. There were players making a lot more, doing less.... (Brindy, Sammy, Cole) ... Eaves hasn't hurt his team...

J.R has NEVER brought it that REALLY BIG TIME SCORER. Staal needs a linemate that is as much a threat as he is.

Some names available... Gaborik, Sedin (I'm not a big Sedin twins fan... but I must admit Sedins would add offense) Tanguay, Tkachuk, Zednik, Shannahan, Afinogenov, Marian Hossa, Kovalev, and Satan, that's about it for scorers... I really wish The Canes would have kept O'Sullivan, instead of rolling the 3-way deal.

Shawn, I really agree with you on these two points. Eaves is a smart player who plays hard, kills penalties and does own a very good wrist shot. He just plays such a cautious game and doesn't go to the net much which keeps him off the scoresheet.

As for a big time scorer who could play with Staal, on my wish list is Nik Antropov. He's big (6'6" 230 lbs.) can play right wing, skates well and has tons of skill.

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Do you people really think Cole is going to take a pay cut from $4 mill, to $2 mill or so? Naive. Cole can get a contract somewhere else, and I hope he does.

If Eaves could get out of his checking winger role, he may produce more. Most guys on the team say he's got the best release on the team... I think the team should stick with him. There were players making a lot more, doing less.... (Brindy, Sammy, Cole) ... Eaves hasn't hurt his team...

I think it would be a bad idea to move one of the more mobile d-men the Canes have, Corvo. The Canes couldn't keep up with Pitt as it is... take Corvo out and they really get skated circles around.

I like Rosie as much as the next guy.... but I can't see paying him $2.2 mill, not with the other contracts the Canes have. To give him that kinda money, they'd have to move someone else. I'm sorry, but I think Matt Cullen is our most valuable trade asset.

Camalleri isn't a top line guy, IMO. J.R has NEVER brought it that REALLY BIG TIME SCORER. Staal needs a linemate that is as much a threat as he is.

Some names available... Gaborik, Sedin (I'm not a big Sedin twins fan... but I must admit Sedins would add offense) Tanguay, Tkachuk, Zednik, Shannahan, Afinogenov, Marian Hossa, Kovalev, and Satan, that's about it for scorers... I really wish The Canes would have kept O'Sullivan, instead of rolling the 3-way deal.

1) Cole would take a paycut to play here, because he knows if he plays here, he'll play with Staal. Other GMs won't make a major offer to Cole, because of his subpar season and the overblown idea that he can't play with anyone but Staal.

2) You can't honestly say that Eaves has outperformed any of the three you listed. Brindamour's making more because he's still on the contract that he signed when he was playing much better. And while Brindamour's first half of the season was terrible, so was Eaves's. The difference is, Brindamour played better down the stretch. Samsonov put up 48 points in the regular season, and 8 points in the playoffs. How is that better than Eaves's 14 points and 3 points in the playoffs? And Cole was just about as useless as Eaves was. To say that one outplayed the other is splitting hairs.

3) Corvo should be traded if we can get a top line forward for him. And all the teams that are looking for an offensive defenseman like Corvo have that top line forward we're looking for.

4) LaRose won't get 2.2 million. He'll get close, but it won't be that high.

5) Most of those you listed are going to be asking for more than we can pay them. The others are either going to the KHL (Zednik) or isn't an upgrade over the wingers we have now (Satan, Afinogenov)

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I'm taking the off-season off from "GM Duty" thanks to my confidence in JR. After getting Jussi for two cardboard cutouts and a bag of used pucks from Tampa I'll let him drive into next season.

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The reason why he couldn't keep up his 60+ scoring pace was because w/o Gaborik, he was expected to score 25-30 goals, which he cannot do he is a pass minded player and had nobody to pass to. But if you look in 07-08 when he had the big name scorer he managed 50 assists. Which is what he would probably put up with Staal or perhaps more because Staal is pretty much always healthy. As for Montador I said he impressed ME.

Somebody has to like "love" the guy because its pretty obvious nobody else does. Some fans turn on players pretty quickly on this site. After the Pittsburgh game when he scored in OT, everybody on this forum wanted him back, Heck there was even a thread on how he came a long way. Now barely anybody wants him back and if they do they want him as the 6th-7th Defenseman. People have to remember it was only his 1st playoff, of course he not gonna play as good with loads more pressure.

I saw your original post. ;)

I just don't see Bouchard fitting what we need, which is skilled wingers with size. Yea, Bouch is swift and talented, but man I am tired of seeing our own swift/talented/small wingers getting shoved along the boards and knocked off the puck so easily. Bouchard is good, but we need to go a different direction.

As for Babs, yea his offense can be good at times, but look how easily NJ/BOS shut him down, and then when that happened his defensive ineptitude and complete lack of speed were masterfully exploited. It may have only been his first postseason, but experience can only mean so much...the guy ain't ever gonna get faster, and frankly I'm not sure if he's ever gonna be a solid D-man. Thus, we can keep him, but third line is as far as he'll go. There's nothing wrong with that, especially if he can chip in 30+ points like he did this year. I just don't ever see him becoming a top line D-man as you do.

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